Yeah because I haven't been giving any tips at all, right? Your post is pretty much just like clockwork Dan, now we're going to have another couple of pages arguing about the merits of criticism and what is "too harsh" or not too harsh. (Boring). (Not to mention you did nothing to help them so touche.) Get a better scanner if you're having such issues. Or check up on deviantart for a lineart tutorial, it's not very difficult to do (really). If anything just go for that "sketchy" look. And anyways my point is is that even sans-digital the drawing is still really really bad and lacks a lot of basic anatomy. (And yes it is anime so some stretch of imagination is fine but you still need to know the basics first). (Also I'd post the same anatomy link as I always do but no one ever looks at it so forget that). At least show us an un-altered image or something and maybe we can tell you what you are doing wrong. Right now there isn't much to really say other than "draw better" or critiquing the storyline or panel-type. Like I said though manga is really out of my league, I know web-comics a lot better. Oh well this thread is a trainwreck, I'll stop posting here if you want. we are going to re post the pages soon so don't give up on it yet. right now it trial and error we are still trin to figure out which is best. hopfully the improve one works a lot better