Agreed. I don't know what I was thinking when I typed out that post earlier, now that I've re-read the whole thread. #-o It's just really mind-boggling though how only certain parts are working. Further, it's odd how they come and go, as well as how they work off and on. I'm almost beginning to think it's time to ask for an HJT Log, because I'm bonking my head on the wall trying to figure out what's going on. :wall: ~D. V. "Argh... *facepalm* ... this one's messing with my head." Devnull 1st RS is not in the hosts file , and 2nd do I have to be worried about a file '.jagex_cache_32' in windows???