I am shocked and extremely saddened by this. I heard Maartens death on the news when I was cleaning in the laboratory I work at, so I couldnt check to see if he could have been a runescape player.. So I just hoped he wasn't.. Last night my worst nightmare was confirmed though.. His poor family.. My heart breaks by the thought of them. Also the horrible way you speak about him hurts me personally. In my childhood I was suicidal.. and I had many, many reasons for it. Lets just say that I didn't get to devote my life to stopping abuse for nothing. People who get to suicide have lost their grip on reality. They're not hopeless and desperate for nothing you know.. So don't diss someone when you really don't know what you're talking about! And don't hack! We shouldnt be discussing what we think of suicide at all anyway, since we will never overcome the differences in our opinions. What we should be thinking about is this.. ALTHOUGH RS IS ONLY A GAME, ITS A PLACE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME AT AND GET TO KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE.. SO REMEMBER THAT WHATEVER YOU DO TO SOMEONE ON RS DOES AFFECT THEIR PERSONAL LIVES!!! So act by that.. Respect & love, Cooky