Yea jagex is lieing the butts off they banned my main who ive played over 5 years for rule 12 and encouraging others when givin a last chance appeal the evidence they claim to have had was just a statement saying they had detirmined i was in full control of my account ??? thats thier idea of evidence????? well only idea i can think they might have is a friend gave me 10 mil to buy guthans back when it was cheap lol this has been over a year ago well anyway my high skilled and good all around main is perm ban and i took a year off just to come back and play my other mining account so yea jagex is full of it and banning ips will never work and they dont have a reliable system to find rule breakers since im proof of thier mistakes