I think this is not jsut a sad moment for us all, but for Jagex too, just for anyone really, i normally believe in fate and destiny, but this just feels too out of place, he was an avd player, and a very nice person, i never knew him, but one of my friends used to be one of his smithing frends, i've had a chance to speak to him, but now that's just going to have to remain a memory... Brilliant article and The Old Nite will be truely missed by one, by all R.I.P The Old Nite :boohoo: