thx for that info :) appreciate it i'll fix the armer thing :) edit: i am sorry but i can't add the ctrl thing because... as a f2p with 1 agility and no weight reduction items i cant run all the way to the bank... what do i mean by that??? well i usually have to stop a little bit before i get to the bank otherwise it makes it harder for me the next time around... but if it works in membs then tell me and i will add it.