give an example of either of those men not giving someone a chance for a fair open debate? Uhh, Lol? Way to take my statement completely out of context. It's not a debate, it's about the right to speak for who you are. These people use the right to speak for who you are, to incite violence to prevent other people, mainly Muslims, the right to speak, be, live and breathe for who they are, both physically and mentally. That unfair enough, for you?