Eric2203

I have a stupid question... how am I supposed to kill giant rock crabs since they run away when low on hp and that others attack you AND that they move over each other ? Sorry if this has already been explained, but I didn't find an answer and I've only now gotten around to going there. All I tried were the giant rock cracks, didn't even bother with the rest. Hope it's not all the same.

It's been done before, the black hole I was referring to earlier.

In fact, age doesn't even have to do that much with maturity. I've spoken to 11 y old in this game who acted much more mature then some 21 y old I met. Sure, the 11 y old could oftenly be very impatient, which ofcourse had a lot to do with his age (most young people tend to be very impatient). But the point is, he was nice, honest and very polite (despite his impatience ;)), whereas the 21 y old was arrogant, rude and egoistic. Perhaps this actually has more to do with character traits then maturity, but in any case: it has little to do with age. ;) Well true, some people are more mature than others at a given age. But you gotta admit that the younger people are, the less mature they are. Just that for some, it comes faster than for others. More to the point, the younger someone is, the less he/she realises the implications of his/her words.

All this is only true up to a point. A 13 year old is not a 3 year old. A 13 year old has a fairly good notion of right and wrong already. A 13 year old has heard of racism. Maturity doesn't come in a day, it's progressive. Every day that passes, people get a little more mature. There are some actions for which 13 year olds can most certainly be blamed. Being that age doesn't excuse every behaviour and action. Some, not all. Certainly not racism. I doubt any parent out there would excuse their 13 year old saying something racist just because he's 13. At 5 years old for example, that would be different. They'd just tell the kid not to say that again, not expect the kid to understand why. A 13 year old, on the other hand, can understand why pretty well.

Then have a hall of shame for players who are perm banned. That way, being popular won't serve any purpose.

Well it comes down to what I said above then. Jagex needs to crack down on it in a more obvious way. I can't help but think they should go back to the black hole from RSC and make examples out of bad players. Perhaps others would get the message then.

don't start this intelligence insulting crap. i don't want a flame war, i want a discussion. obviously the majority of the runescape population is younger, and for the entire thread i've been saying "racists in runescape = young" but you still don't seem to understand. i know that there are plenty of adults that are racist, but the majority of them don't play this game or go around on a video game throwing out racial slurs for kicks. they might do that in real life, but that's not on topic here. also, your mmorpg comparison doesn't make sense Wrong, you said "young = racists". Not the same thing. Obviously you still can't figure it out. That comparison makes perfect sense. That's what YOU're saying. And you're not helping have a discussion, you're just spouting off stupid statements such as young = racists. I can't stand people like you who think they know so much better than everyone else and decide to stick people in categories. And I'll call you on it every time you'll post that crap. Generalising leads to hatred. It's people like you who give a bad image to the youngs of today by putting all of them in the same basket. And you think you're discussing anything by doing that ? Get over yourself. You're not helping in the slightest, you're only making things worse. Crim_nimora, what exactly are you expecting ? A magical solution ? It's not in RS that education is going to take place, particularly as far as racism goes. The only think that can be done is for Jagex to crack down a lot harder on these comments to get rid of them, but that won't change people, unfortunately. As to us players, there's not much else we can do but report those who say things like that. Once there used to be a rant on RS official forums about this. It had hundreds of replies and for once Jagex got involved. Saying they took this seriously... etc. So if it's getting worse in-game again, the best way is to call them on it.

There are stats to back that up. You don't have any. You just think you know better. Saying that young people are racists is stereotyping. Claiming there are exceptions doesn't make your statement true. If you were more intelligent, you'd turn that statement around and say that a lot of racists people on RuneScape are young. Because that way, you focus on the behaviour you're blaming instead of including every young person out there. Read both these statements several times and understand the difference. There is one. And in using the first one, you're clearly wrong. Second, you don't even restrict your statements to RS. I've explained to you that there are a lot more racists adults than you think, probably more than young people actually. So next time, figure out what you want to say. A lot of racists people are young in RS. And even that is generalising since you have no way to know. That's what you wanted to say. Not "a lot of young people are racists." Plus think for a minute. What's the major age group in RS ? That's right, these so-called young people. So no wonder most of the racists ones on there are young, they make up the most important part of the RS population ! So you're not really proving anything about young people, since you already base your statements on a game made up of mostly them, as opposed to an evenly spread across the age group population. That's like saying most game players around the world like MMORPG's just by asking people who play RS. Makes no sense since those who play RS, which is an MMORPG, have to like MMORPG's somewhat, or they wouldn't play it. Get it yet ? What you said is generalising, categorising, stereotyping and it's patronizing and condescendent. All of those apply to what you said. Oh yeah, and contrary to what you said above, it is insulting, and yes it's baseless. Again, there is a difference between "young = racists" and "racists in RS = young".

for one thing, i never said anything like that, and i have not used a condenscending tone in any of my posts. Crim_nimora found an example of you saying that. Look above. When you go and start posting that such and such is doing so and so, in this case young people being racists, then you come off as someone who knows better than them. Which is condescending. Because, who the hell are you to make such statements ? The all-seeing eye ? You're damn right, it's condescending. And patronizing since you pretend to know what's right better than them.

paÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷tronÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷ize 3. To treat in a condescending manner. nope, not quite. Saying most young persons out there are racist is not condescending, maybe ? Yeah right... Since when do people still in school choose who their schoolmates are ? You sure I'm wrong ?

yes i know adults play runescape, now stop trying to patronize me. You've been patronizing every single "young" person in this entire thread. What do you expect ?

that's besides the point, the rascism problem here isn't coming from adults. How do you pretend to know that ? Yes, there are adults playing RS as well (*gasp*). There's a long thread about it in General P2P.

Funny to someone old enough to understand it. And if you're under 15 and understand it, well, you shouldn't. lpinkus this might come as a surprise to you but children know what their genitals are called Well that just shows that YOU don't actually understand what ballslap means. And there is no way I'm explaining it here. Hint: you're wrong, it's not about how you call a body part. Jagex is just inconistent. They don't tolerate these names yet they have no way of checking them and ban when people report others. That causes a problem for long-time players. Anyone saw the petition by xwifebeaterx in General on this forum ? Plus in his case, there was the second meaning of wifebeater, which is the name of a type of shirt. They didn't stop the players when they were a small company and now they expect to ban anybody as they see fit. Not quite that easy, Jagex. I also like how they keep saying that they'll introduce name-change one day. They've said that for years and they've never done it. Doubt they care. Doesn't inspire confidence though. You might be right that JAGeX is inconsistent on this sort of thing, and I assume it's due to the sheer number of players, which increases daily. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed. And, just for the record, calling a certain T-shirt a "wife beater" is not giving it a second meaning. The term is still offensive! It just implies that the style of shirt is often worn by mean who abuse their wives. So, no, the phrase "wife beater" does not become approriate just because there's a T-Shirt named after it. lpinkus I never said it shouldn't be fixed... all I said was that they were inconsistent. I know that meaning and you know it. I don't know how old that particular player is. If I recall from his post here, he was a young teen when he created his char. Not sure they all understand the implications of the name. That's another reason why Jagex should act ASAP and not months or years after chars have been created. Because by then all they end up doing is making people angry, particularly when the player doesn't see what was offensive about it.

Yes there's a huge difference between these 2 statements ! It seems you're the one who doesn't understand what Duke Freedom was saying, since you're making the exact same mistake above. Statement 1 is wrong and stupid. Statement 2 is a lot more accurate. Learn to understand the differences.

i meant on a computer game. i know full well of racist people in real life. Then what makes you think adults won't follow the same behaviour in-game ? If anything, adults are more set in their views than younger people to begin with. Younger ones are more easily influenced and are in contact with all sorts of people when they go to school, from all kinds of backgrounds. Adults choose who surrounds them, and even if they work with people they disapprove of, the relationship is completely different than for kids in a school.