Okay thanks, perhaps i'll get into mining infact. Really enjoy it! Also, as a non-member, I seem to find it more enjoyable as the spots are busy, competition yet seems to make it more enjoyable than just standing around by yourself. I'd be banking the ores though as I enjoy that more! I guess I could go for 85 and along the way mine coal on a 2:1 ratio with iron so to actually be able to make a fair number of steel bars by the time I get 85 mining. ANybody got any tips for this which I am most likely going to do? Oh and i'm 21 combat, 21 hitpoints, 13 prayer and 30 ranged. I am planning on raising all skills not constant mining. :)