Alright, You do put up a good point Ryan, because to make something like this work, you do have to find something special that none of the other millions of places like it have. Yes, i could say that this is a place where people of many different styles ranging from pixel to photoshop art to photoshop abstract/grunge signatures can all be a part of, however, there are probably a few places that allow many kinds. I could say that it isn't just good sigmakers or even sigmakers at all allowed on here, however there are other places like that. But what i can say is, a place cannot grow into something special without the first few people who join and beleive in it, or, the loyal core you might say. If you want me to back this up with examples from history and the like, i will pm you with it, but right now i'm saving my precious time. So, right now i'm getting those first few people, who will help the place grow, and eventually become large(trust me i'll probably get a domain when its grown enough for it to be worth putting on my limited monthly budget that comes with leaving the house and being in college.), and i can understand that many people would not like to come at first, because those are the people who just feel "why not go somewhere else?" which is perfectly valid right now, but, what i meant in my retaliation against him, though it was a reality check, and i should have said it this way was, that if he felt the need to be negative and didn't want to come, then why post? I'll leave it at that for now because i have to go. :/