a lot of you are talking about people autoing only for runescape money, this is not always true, i auto for the fun of it, to beat the system. i dont really care about RS2 money, its just the fun of seeing my program work throught the night, i love waking up and seeing 10 hours of solid work also, while some people just download the autos off a website, i made all mines myself, for me it is NOT do-no-work-and-get-rich the level 3s running around are probably these non-programmers who just download it off a site (called leechers) they dont care about getting caught, but i do, i like seeing how far i can go without getting banned (this other guy i know has a level 85 miner, all autoed) dont get me wrong, Jagex DO try very hard to stop us, i wont list the methods but there are a lot, i respect jagex for giving me a challange and a platform to auto on. those level 3s just offend jagexs and its players. another reason that autos are mostly levels 3s is that they use a modified runescape client, since jagex spend their lives coding traps in here, these accounts never last longer than two or three days. theres no point rasing combat if it gets banned so quickly. java bots --> breach of copyright i dont think autoing will ever end, there are just so many methods to do it, some are very hard to destroy, but it has been done, the game engine update killed a very powerful java bot, ill just say that it created a lot of blond-haired, blue eyed germans btw: darksniper, you do need 40 attack to weild, but you need 41 mining to acctually mine with it