Mukanshin

As I've stated, if anyone doesn't know, RS did not have a pay aspect. Is Jagex a big company now? Yes, from what I know. Is it a priority to always increase profits? If you're greedy, yes. You have to remember, this is not the goal of all companies. Consider gaining members and gaining money their goals, while F2P updates (NOT related to protecting their accounts so they will have them long enough to become members) could be considered charity work. Any successful company does both. Gain profits and have charity work. Would giving F2Ps updates at a slow, steady pace cause members to wonder why they're paying to play? If they forget about all the extra features they already have access to: all those skills, spells, those few extra prays, all the frequent updates they get, and will continue to get, all those quests, among other things, then yes. Plainly and simply, it's quite greedy of anyone to say so. You pay for the extra content that is ALREADY in the game. You pay for the next month, then you're entitled to the extra content for that month, as well as any updates they may produce. When it comes down to it, just because you're a member doesn't mean they HAVE to give you updates either, especially not as often as they do. Would people still remain members if they slacked-off on their updates? Why, yes, of course they would. You know why? All the member stuff they have, all the bank space they have, the fact that they've gotten used to everything a member has. The only thing that would make them stop paying, is if they decided to take a break from RS for a while, or quit. The thought of having to chuck out all that member stuff, plus more, to give you enough F2P room to do anything... why, that would be enough of an incentive to keep your membership right there. I have been told that their profits are really quite up there. So, let's say hypothetically that their profits are about 40m a year. About how much would it cost to have a small team (probably very small) to work on F2P updates at a relaxed pace? I'm guessing it shouldn't be more than 100k a year. If so, and you think that going from 40m in profits to 39.9m in profits is really hurting them, then perhaps F2P shouldn't get anything. Who in their right mind would say that going from 40m to 39.9m is a giant loss? Only the greedy, only the greedy. Even if their profits were only 5m a year, it still wouldn't be a great loss. Greed really is such a reoccurring concept that it's quite tiresome to keep going back and pointing it out. Now, with what has been said, I can see that this, like all the other "debates" like this, is going no where. It's just going to keep going in circles. What will we all have accomplished when it's all over? Nothing, but getting a headache. So, I'm going to bow out of the debate, saving myself the trouble and the time, as well as some aspirin in the end. Goodbye.

Hello. I've been playing since "Classic" was Runescape. I've been playing for about 6 years now, purely (what is now called) "F2P". To all those members who say "we pay, we get", or something along those lines, I have news for you... Runescape did not always have a pay aspect. All it had were the ads and donations. So, the mere fact that you have either forgotten that it was free for a few years in the beginning, or that you started after the membership aspect was put in, invalidates your argument. So, please find something new to say, as it is getting quite tedious and repetitive to read this same thing over and over and over. Typing out lengthy posts to attempt to prove your "point" is just a waste of your time. F2P has gradually turned into basically one giant tutorial before you buy a membership. If you doubt this, then speak to others who have been playing long enough to see the changes. It's true, believe it, or not. Have you ever noticed all the membership plugs in F2P? Strategically placed things so that you're sure to constantly see the "You must be on a member's server to do this"? Commands that have no business being in F2P? The steal command? The member spells mixed in with the F2P spells? The member prays? The strategic placing of the Stronghold of Security, and the obvious reason why its there? (<- don't get me started on that) The quality of Runescape has seriously degraded over the years. Now, don't get me wrong, because members choose to give money to Jagex for extra features DOES entitle them to all the extra content they get. However, F2Ps need to be treated better. Simply paying doesn't make you better. I've seen so many members that need to be caged, in my opinion. F2Ps need more of everything, in slow release. The only emergency thing needed is more bank space. Overall, F2P has changed VERY little since the game was entirely free. Have there been some updates and improvements? Yes. If you try to stretch these to make them seem like a lot, please don't waste your time. I don't know who you think you're fooling, but it's not me, for one. As I see it, F2Ps DO deserve to get updates, perhaps one update every two months, while members could still get their 2-4 A MONTH that they have always gotten. You members who seem to cry about the "fact" that would make you get less updates, ...are acting quite frankly, bluntly, and honestly, like spoiled brats. All they would need is a small team to work on some F2P updates, while leaving you members with your huge team to pump out your continuous, or near continuous updates. The "right" as I believe it was called, to get updates is a right to EVERYONE. Members that don't care if F2P gets anything or not? That's fine. But, the next time something goes wrong in members, or turns out to be quite awkward... I don't want to hear a single peep out of you. No jumping up in arms about it or anything. Simply send your customer support queries to Jagex and be done with it. Scrounge around all the time finding odd handyman things to get $5 a month? Doing all that for an online game? Anyone who wants to say that, please step back and do it yourself first, before condescending to tell F2Ps to do it. Now, this really is entirely my own opinion, but if your parents won't give you the money, or allow you to pay to play an online game... Yes, in a sense, it is Jagex's fault. Had they not made a membership aspect to the game, there would be no problem of this at all. Look at the root causes when you try to form an argument, please. Now, I have far more on this subject, but I think this is enough for now. As far as there being some debate about this matter? That's quite funny. There is no debate about something when it's a matter of fact. If I've come off as a bit harsh about this matter, I apologize. But, the truth is, I'm holding back a lot to keep it civil.

I've been playing for about 6 years now off and on (straight F2P only), so I've seen the long line of changes. I have several of my own rants about RS and how it's changed, but that's for another time and another place. Yes, F2Ps need more space. I cannot count the times I've said to myself, "If only I had one more space... Just one more..." As others have stated, 12 spaces, the rest of the row and another row would be sufficient for quite a LONG time. It would definitely solve any problems I would have. I've had to throw out so many things, or stop what I was doing and do something else for long enough to use up whatever was taking up the space. And, after I would do so, within a few days, I would find myself in dire need of what I had used up, or chucked out for more space. I have several... choice, select comments for Jagex on this situation as well as a few others, but they wouldn't be appropriate to state in ANY forum. This has my full support. Can't let you know who I am though, certain reasons. Thank you, good luck with it all.