Personally, i couldn't agree more with this guy. Ive been here since the beginning of runescape, when you couldnt even see other peoples combat levels. To be honest, hes 110% right. Exploration and personal creativity was what made RSC so damn popular and addictive. The more people played the game the more unique it became, and yet attracted more outsiders. Things like pures, pure defence god mage stakers and pure mages made runescape one of the most user friendly and lenient games. But the way Jagex has reacted was simply poor and unproffesional. RSC may have had bad graphics, but the creativity is gone, and now i find myself having less to do in RS2 then RSC, despite that fact that its now twice as big. RS2 pking is now strictly limited to higher levels, the staking now is a even worse story; and the myterious feeling of not knowing what you could stumble upon is gone. In response to you Andrew, it would perhaps be better to let a few things go once in a while and see where Runescape takes itself. By all means intervene if the course turned out to be bad, but give new 'flowers a chance to grow' even if you feel thretened by them. xb0vv