Now, this mainly applies to melee pures. As mage's are generally better of farcasting. I would contend that THE reason pures 'own' is gear based. At low levels, a guy decked out in his full Mith / Addy set can put up a decent fight against a pure str character. Often beat it. However, how many low levels are willing to risk their shiny new armour on the wilderness? Most venture out in iron / steel. Or even one item. The main benefit of the defence skill, is not the skill itself - but the armour it allows one to wear. Clearly, someone with 1 defence, 40 attack and 60 strength who wears iron armour, will be at an insane advantage compared to someone who has 30 defence, 30 attack and 30 strength yet still wears iron armor. The same applies to higher levels - If your main bonus in training defence is the Barrow's and Dragon armour sets, yet you fight in full rune Vs 45 defence pures who have maximized their damage whilst still pulling out similar defence stat's, then you will be at a disadvantage. The divide between impures and pures swings further towards the impures the higher level you play at. The only real reason for this that I can see is that generally speaking the higher level you are, the richer you will be, and therefore feel more comfortable with wearing the expensive armour sets that play to your strength's Vs Pures. Another factor is the element of skill, that a pure character develops. Most pures spend a LOT of time in PvP. They learn when to pot, when to eat, when to safe and when to go for a KO. Generally impure skillers, who like to pass an hour here and there daytripping in the wilderness fail to develop these 'Skills'. Not to say that there arent skilled impures and unskilled pures, its just a factor to consider. My two pence. - Gid. [/wave to all the oldies ^.^] nooo noo.. most pures that fight like barrows and stuff already is like 90+ attk and 99 str.. and commonly equipped with barrages.. soo i wouldn't think pures would lose... we would commonly kill barrows people. Right, i mean couse with your 99 str at 90 combat your max damage is 39 or so with whip, however a lvl 90 with say 85 str in dharoks can hit up to about 60 on your low crappy def, doesnt take many of those to ko. And far casters blow, a high lvl impure ussually has enough range that they can switch to black hides and range you till you move in close then ko with dharok. rofl you make it like dharok k0s and hit like 60 everytime.. you need like really low hp.. by the time your low hp i'll be pulling out my dds and smaking you wit like 35 specs.. and trust mee.. 1 spec would take you out lol.... make it like some idiot is gona eat the whole fight wit full dharoks and hit 60s on me with full hp. then whats the point of pking in full dharoks lol.