I've been training quite a lot on the Dags under the Lighthouse. They drop all 4 charm colors, but at infrequent intervals due to how many other players are there training. I've noticed that the lvl 92's drop the Crimson ones more than the other 3 color charms. So if you're looking to go there for the gold ones, in my opinion you should try your luck on other monsters. After 1 hr of killing at the least 100 dags (combined not 100 of each lvl =p) , I only had 7 gold charms, 4 green, 3 blue and 10 crimson. ~ Must complete Horror from the Deep Quest ~ ~ Dags not recommended for players of very low hp who wouldnt survive ten or more of these attacking at once =p Lvl 74 Dagganoths: 1 Gold (possible green but rare from the 74's) Lvl 92 Dagganoths: 1 Gold; 1 Crimson; 1 Green; 1 Blue [not all at once] About the Tzar drops; Could just be my luck, but it's only the lvl 144's that drop the obby charms, not the 133's. And if it hasn't been mentioned already, 99% of the time they drop 2 at a time. In the few minutes I was there training, I killed 15 of the 144's and had a total of 26 charms from them, and as mentioned none from the ten 133's I killed.