Many, if not most, of the people complaining about pvp just aren't satisfied that they didn't make the kill-get the good drop-and have all their friends around to pat their backs. PVP is and always been flawed in their eyes. I remember the kid dying, teleblocked and bound, complaining that his killer was a mage noob. Or how about the one that kept hitting 0's or 3's and calling their attacker a defense noob because they couldn't make the kill. It will never matter how Jagex tries to better the game for all players, there will be the crybabys complaining their rights as 'spoiled little brats' were denied. The world isn't fair. The game isn't fair. The people who work to raise their skills arent fair. The people who tele/run/1 item aren't fair. OMG. Why not have your opponent go to the dual arena and bet his armor/weapons and fight until one of you die? That seems fair if you both bet the same cash value and that way nobody could run and cheat you out of your reward. But wait... Then you cant run or tele and that just wouldn't be fair to you either... Jagex had to make some tough changes to stop the money hungry leeches that would RWT and people refuse to look at it as a good thing for the game. I am sorry that your lives were disrupted by these changes and I really hope you grow out of it before you hit the real world. If you need a thrill there are some pretty powerful monsters in the game that will challenge even the most advanced players. If you don't believe me, grab some armor and food and head for the KBD and solo him. Good luck with your game playing and don't forget to thank Jagex for their contribution in giving over 90% of the players a game they enjoy to play.