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Lots of problems with that. If freewill does exist, God can be omniscient(omnipotent is all-powerful) by seeing all possibilities because the future does not exist until it actually happens, and it is therefore not knowable. If we have not freewill, then it doesn't really matter either way, now does it? Besides that, why does a god have to be all-knowing(or all-powerful as the case may be)? The Christian God is omnipotent, which by definition means that he should be able to see the future and all possibilities, which still implies that nothing can happen which wasn't one of the possibilities. If an omnipotent god does not knowing something, he is not omnipotent. I believe that God sees all the different possibilities of the future, based on our choices of course (Thats a helluva lotta scenarios for the future), and that's how he knows the future. We still have that choice though.

What I'm getting from all this is that you're all saying that if I create a creature, and create it's environment and all those other things, but give it a will of it's own, I am somehow responsible for what it chooses? The whole point of the will is that the creature itself is responsible for it's choices. Let's not try to pass blame on the choices we make just because God created our surroundings and such.

Yes, kind of like that. Someone should make a thread about it, and work out all the ideas and such, and submit it to Jagex to see if they would consider it. I think it's an awesome idea. After all, for one they are already expanding with new games and whatnot, and for two they can't not love the idea! lolz. :thumbsup: EDIT: I'm actually now thinking about the whole thread thing and submitting the idea to Jagex...I'll be working on it. PM me on here w/ your ideas. I want them all!..the good ones anywayz. I'll take ideas for about two weeks or so then release a thread on it.

This is where I LOL'd. Yeah, technically only 34% of Americans are Obese. http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/research-more-obese-americans-than-overweight-americans.html Although, another 32% are overweight...so that's 65%+ are either of the two. Not cool tbh. :shame: Seriously, to unspam: [hide=Thought this would be cool] Seriously though, what if RS were a buyable pc game, like WoW and you could move around like wow and whatnot. But it still had everything it does now, including f2p, just more in depth with certain things like combat,(also i think agility would be much more fun if there was interaction) Which do you think would be a better game then?..Not that I wanna start that argument again...[/hide]

That's because most kids who play online games are chubby pale children who are never seen gracing the ground of the outside world, and sit in there rooms chowing down on chocolate while they train up their runescape characters. lol. I'd need a small. Have high metabolism, so I eat like a fat kid, only without the bad side effect. lol. This proves we need to start making computers you have to power by treadmill electricity. =-p (This wasn't meant to be offensive...much.) Treadmill part....LOLZ'd irl. =D>

When i first created my acc, it used to be world 57 f2p. Then i got member and it was world 56 always. Then the whole fav worlds thing was released so it was 56 and 31(house parties for teles to kharyl. lolz.) Then i finally did dt, and got my con up so i got my own tele's and it changed to 56 and 164 for Sc Finally i decided to go with the current, world 56 and 99. Ls and Tip it official world.

Where does it say in the bible to treat women badly? JW The whole original sin thing has lead to contempt for women in Christianity for thousands of years, and it still continues pretty much to this day. This is the first I've heard about this women-hating thing. And besides, probably everyone in this world would have done the same thing she did. She was made perfect, in a perfect world, and still sinned. What? If God created everything, and her "sin" was the culmination of her experiences and her mental genetic framework, then God was in turn responsible for the sin. Choice! Seriously, how do you not get that??

Dude awesome. gratz. =D> : TY! Odd thing is... I last logged out catching Monkfish. All he did was catch me 2 extra fish and buy me 980K air runes... LMAO! Does this mean you control the air rune market now? Isn't it true that certain things like that don't go up and down? Heard that somewhere.

Dude awesome. gratz. =D> :

Where does it say in the bible to treat women badly? JW

[hide=] [/hide] To be completely honest i dont get the chat thing. #-o

Ruby e ftw and ttr again.

[hide=] religious people tend to be more pious, not more moral. Not acting in a reserved manner doesnt make you less moral. No, but doing immoral things that religious people wouldn't do, does. BTK, Dennis Raider(spelling) was a serial killer and I believe the minister of his church(certain he was christian). How would that have gotten worse if he was an atheist? Thought you'd bring up something like that, this is exactly why I'm saying generally speaking. Everything that has to do with people and/or their actions has exceptions. Name me a moral action which a believer can perform, which an atheist/agnostic can not. To the guy who talks of the "hippy atheist liberals," I think you need to do a bit of research on the role of religion in mass atrocities. Sure, religion was the start of charity, and a lot of other good, but you are hardly innocent when it comes to acts of terror and violence done in the name of God. Don't get too hung up on this point, because this isn't the main part of what I'm saying, but quit acting like religion's influence is solely positive. Also, why do you think an objective moral standard can only come from God? Have you managed to solve the Euthyphro dilemma too? You say that you aren't forcing it on anybody, yet how else do you plan to solve the problem you believe there to be? Look, society and the common values of the people change over time. This isn't my opinion by the way, this is a fact. I'm not talking about morality even, just simply the way in which social contracts work and are formed, as well as managed by the state and by the majority. These all change. You need to stop trying to judge everything with the same religious moral certitude that people did in the 50s and 60s because we aren't living in those times. "drug use, teenage sex" - what is wrong with these things? (the age that it is legal to have sex is 16 here in the UK, and I think it is fine). Alcohol is a drug, do you go around condemning people sitting in bars relaxing with their friends after a week at work? [/hide] I swear the point of the reply to your post was to say that either side could do either. Nuf said. :wall: Simple, we tell them about it. Then leave them to make their own decisions. Point blank period. To think about it, it's really hard to force someone to do something unless there is some kind of threat involved. As my Kindergarten teacher used to say when i said he made me do it: "Did he put a knife to your throat? No? Did he put a gun to you? No? Did he in any way threaten you or your family or any other personal aspect of your life? No? Then plainly he didn't make you do it!" This is beyond true. There's a lot wrong with these things when they are [1]illegal, and [2] cause so much damage that whatever little good they actually do can barely be seen at all. Of course theres the moderation thing, but doing that can be so hard as the more you have at all, the more you want and feel you need. And on the sex issue, teens are 13+, is that right? Whenever something does more wrong than right, imo, something is wrong with it. Not "getting hung up" but religion, has done much much more good than it has bad. Also, this could be said about any belief whatsoever. I believe the whole Govt. is corrupt so i blow up congress, the house, and the white house while they're holding a meeting. Yes it's true, you don't have to be a part of some religion to do good, i said that; but it is also true that the majority of people who have some religiously moral background do good. But to be fair there are some of everything that do something completely opposite of whatever they are part of.

religious people tend to be more pious, not more moral. Not acting in a reserved manner doesnt make you less moral. No, but doing immoral things that religious people wouldn't do, does. BTK, Dennis Raider(spelling) was a serial killer and I believe the minister of his church(certain he was christian). How would that have gotten worse if he was an atheist? Thought you'd bring up something like that, this is exactly why I'm saying generally speaking. Everything that has to do with people and/or their actions has exceptions.

You should arrange them somehow to make out TIF! \

religious people tend to be more pious, not more moral. Not acting in a reserved manner doesnt make you less moral. No, but doing immoral things that religious people wouldn't do, does.

Um, generally speaking, they are. Most religions teach some kind of moral lesson that's for the most part usually true; morally speaking anywayz. I'm not saying religions can't include morals, but that (1) being religious doesn't exclude you from behaving immorally, and that (2) you can have morals without being religious. Well yes, but (and again just generally speaking, not meaning ALL) people who have a religion tend to be more...morally strict in life, and people who don't...don't. Of course that doesn't mean all in either side. My religion (one of the protestant ones) believes that many who aren't believers will reach heaven, because they lived there life to the best of their ability and were in fact good people. Do that, and you're pretty much set whether there is a God or not.

Um, generally speaking, they are. Most religions teach some kind of moral lesson that's for the most part usually true; morally speaking anywayz.

Well you're kinda right there. I believe that's just about one of the best things of religion; it gives a moral base that is usually nothing but good for the community. Afterall, this country that we hold so dearly was based off of the morals of the Bible. Contrary to what many say, the bible doesn't prosecute anyone for actually having different beliefs, it welcomes them to join yes, but does not say they have to or they die. Unless ofcourse they do something aggressive to the religious community. Fact is, there were actually many non believers in biblical times. Also, i'm not saying all atheist are immoral btw.

DBZ had a huge fanbase around the same age of the current Naruto fanbase. Once these current fanboys get older Naruto will fall. I hope they'll come with a definite end sometime before i become a surgeon (I think that's a fair amount of time considering I'm just now applying for college. lolz. :lol: )

[hide=] You're about to get gang-banged by bandos' followers? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Anyways, i was gonna say the obvious, the amount of xp qc says is left is different from the actual xp you have. Guys, you're missing the point completely. Qc actually says he needs less xp than he does. That's because he just got a hp level, and the qc text is from before he got the level. [/hide] OHH! i feel stupid now. and to the SSBB...well i guess all i can say is OH! lolz. but thnx, now i know...i dont have a wii thgh, soz.

WGS :cry: :cry: :cry: One day i'll do that... For now i'm gonna try to find the people who do all those pics and see if one of them can take a screeny like that in good resolution for a bg for me. EDIT: What on earth is SSBB??

[hide=] [/hide] Ok dude, where is that? because if someone could get a good shot of that, it'd make an amazing great background!! Especially if the person was standing there doing the fm cape emote as if they were "lighting up" the place!! :D Also, i like how 5+ people posted about that sc before me... :wall: total fail on my part. #-o

You're about to get gang-banged by bandos' followers? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Anyways, i was gonna say the obvious, the amount of xp qc says is left is different from the actual xp you have.

You said she died... What the hell Naruto. Wouldn't it be funny if Naruto died. Like actually died without all this ressurection [cabbage]. I never said she died, I said imo it's about time nagato(pain) died. I mean have you seen him?? [hide=Just a few shots of him...][/hide] Edit: figured it out....was using italics instead of image #-o Doubt they will until akatsuki is completely gone and naruto is atleast on track to become hokage. That's still a helluva long time away tbch.