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i have to admit that i only skimmed the guide. i did notice that telegrabbing wasn't mentioned as a way of squeezing in a few more kills an hour. personally, i come to use the same spot myself. I always have to bank because my yak is full when i telegrab, and i like not having to run around to pick bones of a dragon while another is aggressive in another direction.
from what i read, the guide seems to-the-point and good :)
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high alching the fish is fastest, but expensive. when dropping the fastest alternative is fishing one, then dropping, fishing another then dropping etc :)
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Way to sound like a [bleep]ing [bleep] Nacho trying to have a go at someone who writes articles for free for the amusement of others. Before you go bashing his work how about we see some of yours? Let me put it "bluntly", your a person who feels everything they think is automatically correct, if someone says something your the first to jump in and "correct" them. Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself and stop having a go at other people, [bleep]ing moron.
how about http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?times=411 and http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?times=446 ?
I'd much appreciate a qualification of why you perceive me as someone with a superiority complex. If you're simply going by my previous post on this topic, i'd simply like to ensure that i credit the users of tif with the ability to discern fact from opinion themselves. I also assume the intellect of the readership.
let me provide an example:
sorry' date=' i don't read the tip.it times for this lowly settling-of-scores by a "reflected author" who makes mistakes on purpose because "it should make you read it twice..."[/quote']Settling scores? Making mistakes? Just because you do not have the intellect to understand what I wrote, means it is a mistake. Obviously you feel insulted that you did not get to be there, and are lashing out. Stop it, it does not become you.
my opinion is that this is the settling of scores:
I'd like to give a special comment to the people who claim this was GeekFest, the people that claimed they would've gone if they knew it was free, the people that demand a Flagstaff be released for everyone, and even the people that complained that the prices of the food and drinks were too high.the making of mistakes:
And this:"BESIDES all of the above, I couldn't find a single thing that I liked about this event." means that I DID like all the stuff mentioned... Apparently some people read right past this and saw this as another critical piece of Jagex, while I can't imagine anyone ever doing a better job...
Yes, I meant to write it in this way, because it should make you read it twice...
let us look at the use of the english language here (it has rules that bind us all) by paraphrasing: "except for all of the above, i didn't like anything about the event ; I have mentioned everything positive about the event.
This must have been an incredibly compelling article for you to have read it, never mind felt the need to comment on it? I've always been under the impression that a good writer has to be objective in their views and as this was an article and not a blog ... less personal and more informative should be the point.actually, i always read the tip.it times and regularly comment on the discussion topics. a post takes 5 minutes, which in my case were spent fishing ingame.
Settling scores? Making mistakes? Just because you do not have the intellect to understand what I wrote, means it is a mistake. Obviously you feel insulted that you did not get to be there, and are lashing out. Stop it, it does not become you.my opinion on the settling of scores and making of mistakes remains. I clearly understood what you wrote, and your neccessary clarifications due to difuse use of English to convey your point. I have no clue where you insinuate that I wished to go to runefest, feel any need to insult those of you who chose going to runefest or feel the out-lash in your article was aimed at me.
I feel insulted because a publication of a high standard (and to which i've contributed) lashes out at a third party.
for your futher comment on the "genre" of your piece as compared to others, i present you with basic criteria for features: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_story
i find it degrading that you assume i see a "best article competition" on the event, again you assume the worst of me. however, i expect all pieces published in the tip.it times to hold a high journalistic standard, just as the rest of tip.it holds a higher standard than these forums.
I'm sorry you find the need to personally insult me for sharing my opinion on your article. Isn't the sharing of honest opinion the form of a discussion topic?
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I would have to say individual clan members are more respected than their respective clans on tif, in my opinion.
that says more about the clan world than tif though.
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Before I continue with the After-party and the Goodbye-party, I'd like to give a special comment to the people who claim this was GeekFest, the people that claimed they would've gone if they knew it was free, the people that demand a Flagstaff be released for everyone, and even the people that complained that the prices of the food and drinks were too high.
Shut the hell up! Please. You were not there, and if you truly believed it would be the entire cast plus extra's from "Revenge of the Nerds" attending the event, you were probably not wanted there anyway. It reeks of jealousy, get over it.
sorry, i don't read the tip.it times for this lowly settling-of-scores by a "reflected author" who makes mistakes on purpose because "it should make you read it twice..."
get over yourself. I don't see any reason why your articles should be chain-published to feed your ego. Den's contributions to the runefest thread makes me wonder why he wasn't the one to write the tip.it times article on the topic (I'll freely assume he wasn't asked, it was invariably " your job").
sorry, articles from other locations (Hi Stokenut and WG) were already published in August, were more personal accounts of the happenings, and to put it bluntly, better reads. tip.it times beaten at their own game...
If you have a yak, you know the DYK. if you don't have a yak, fewer know that an imp can bank two items, also from pvp worlds, with (i believe) 71 hunter.
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hahaha "look forward to seeing you in w117"
wow, a truly inspiring grasp of how their high-level player-base organizes itself to maximize the fun within the game. no wonder they're so far behind on clan support.
Naturaly they are going to say that as its the official Dungeoneering world.
naturally they are going to make the dungeoneering clan Dungeoneering Elites' first dungeoneering world the official world, as the players had to organize their own dungeoneering, as they are having to organize their own conquest worlds.
then naturally, they will only make it the official dungeoneering world, months after the release of the skill, at a point in time where the world no longer produces good teams, but just many teams to such an extent that the whole server just lags.
hmm... ;)
so the problem here is that they didn't list 117 as the official world soon enough for you?
my problem: they didn't have an official world at the release of dung, they didn't have an official world at teh release of conquest. conclusion: they don't think activities need to be centered around specific worlds for some reason or other. That's not how we runescapers play their game. Jagex thus shows their lack of understanding how to interface perfectly good content for user-friendliness.
And then they come in taking credit for a dungeoneering system us players have organized. who even knows if they tested dungeoneering with someone in a "keyer role" , but they take that credit only after the player-made system has shown that w117 can't handle running all the dungeons simultaneously without considerable server-lag throughout the world. Still advocating that as the official world: doesn't really make sense does it?
was just too much for me trying to pull allthat off :D
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hahaha "look forward to seeing you in w117"
wow, a truly inspiring grasp of how their high-level player-base organizes itself to maximize the fun within the game. no wonder they're so far behind on clan support.
Naturaly they are going to say that as its the official Dungeoneering world.
naturally they are going to make the dungeoneering clan Dungeoneering Elites' first dungeoneering world the official world, as the players had to organize their own dungeoneering, as they are having to organize their own conquest worlds.
then naturally, they will only make it the official dungeoneering world, months after the release of the skill, at a point in time where the world no longer produces good teams, but just many teams to such an extent that the whole server just lags.
hmm... ;)
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hahaha "look forward to seeing you in w117"
wow, a truly inspiring grasp of how their high-level player-base organizes itself to maximize the fun within the game. no wonder they're so far behind on clan support.
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See you guys were seriously wrong, shoulda listened to saru..
back to square 1.
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runescape is a game. you play for fun.
i know the ring of kinship is slower, yet i do summoning and rc with it too, because that way i don't get frustrated when i forget to change glories, or switch rings or whatever.
dont' get too caught up in what's best unless you define best as most fun
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No I'm not. They have a right to build there. I'm simply saying I, as well as others, don't want them there. Two different things, by far.
Why don't you want them there?
Yea, I can't tell if I'm being baited. But I'll take it.
Even if only on purely religion reasons: I'm Christian, I wouldn't support the building of any other religious center. Don't confuse that with hate of the religion, while the two are usually mixed in. I don't hate Muslims, while I only have two Muslim friends, I welcome them. But they support a competing religion, it's like supporting the opposing foot ball team in Hicksville Tennessee. People from up north (atheists/agnostics in this situation) will say what's the big deal, it's JUST A SPORT. However, to the ones down south (generally religious people) it's life or death. Now I'm not saying I would ever protest it, thats just in bad taste, and lets face it, gets nowhere. But if they asked for monetary donations, or if I had to vote, I'd politely decline.
On other reasons, again, I'll re-iterate. It's in bad taste. No one is denying the terrorists were Muslim, and Islam-motivated. And, no one is denying that they were extremists, and the majority of Muslims aren't like that. But here's the clincher, they are still Muslim. It's simply disrespectful, do they have the right to build there? As long as they get all of their permits approved, fine by me. But c'mon, it's disrespectful to the ones who lost their lives, no matter how unrelated.
so, following a Christian parallel here: Christianity is responsible for the IRA, thus no new churches should be built in Ireland, where countless IRA terrorist attacks in the name of Christianity have taken place during the last 50 years?
you're blaming someone who isn't responsible for the attacks. Islam isn't a "religion of hate" just like Christianity isn't propagandist and technology-hating (Amish comes to mind here).
I think you need to rationalize your anger here, and blame those who are to blame, not just someone that's easy to blame for something they're clearly not involved in.
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no. I said if it truly is random (your side of the story) why can't they go somewhere else? I don't think its random at all, and a lot of people agree with me as well.
i haven't read any of the discussion, miss-clicked and stumbled upon this post.
I just want to point out to you that what you're saying is: " just because it's a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it's not right".
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Because that would piss off a hell of a lot of people who have barely have their quescapes. I'd certainly be pissed off at a quest with 90 fishing, 90 agility, 90 mining/construction.... that's actually part of the reason that the diaries have no cape for completing them all. They could make diaries that require 99 in some skills. You'd still have the rewards from the diaries you beat. But with the questcape, people lose out on it, and they become very angry. That's WHY Jagex makes quests that, at worst, usually take a couple weeks for someone who previously had the questcape to beat. (Except maybe someone who JUST got it.)
I could easily see them making dwarf or elf content with reqs in the 90s, but Jagex isn't dumb enough to do that with quests.
who care so much about their skillcape /questcape? three is no achievement in having the quest cape. it's 13m exp to get all the requirements. I'll give you 20m exp as a benchmark if you like, but that's still 20m of the first 50m exp you'll get ingame. so what if someone loses their quest cape? so what if someone loses their firecape (which is a greater achievement). you're saying the reason quests don't have higher requirements is that jagex cares about your quest cape. i think jagex just haven't been able to churn out enough quests to gradually make it up to requirements that matter. at some point they must realize that their "elite" content never is or has been elite, because they've released it too slowly, over-saturating the low-level game instead.
Or, Jagex could just NOT make a quest where you catch a misquito with a chopstick. Problem solved. Also, pretty sure the TzHaar quest involved mining and construction in a volcanic cavern - WITHOUT level 99 mining and construction. So, yeah, you need requirements - the question the OP posted WASN'T should quests have requirements, but rather "awesome levels." So, as long as we avoid catching a misquito with a chopstick, we're good. Or, maybe part of the quest involves making some special potion, or doing something so that you ARE able to catch a misquito with a chopstick - and by doing something, I mean doing questing stuff, rather then catching a bunch of kyatts.
As for any arguments being emotive....here's a question. Would Vulcans waste time playing video games, especially ones that involve a lot of grinding? Probably not.
Runescape is enough of a grindfest as is, let's try to keep questing away from that. if there are no requirements for doing quests (by "requirements" i mean something not everyone has, or can get at thier wish at any time), why do npc's need your help? does a fireman need help from a random stranger to fix his fire department?
again, your argument is emotive in the sense that you argue for exactly what you would like, not what's good for the game, not what's reasonable in terms of lore, not what's reasonable in terms of providing incentives to play the game as it is meant to be played (hey, jagex added levels up to 99...)
No one has said anything about lvl 99. level 92 is half way. there's a significant difference there. i'm all for any requirement up to lvl 92 in anything for any reason.
IF you don't like the main mechanic of the game (grinding), don't play it. CHOOSE A DIFFERENT GAME, don't come here whining about something you know won't change, that there's no reason to change. it's like playing monopoly, disliking that distance moved is determined by a dice...
you want a segmented game, where gamplay in the form of quests, and gameplay in the form of activities, minigames, area access, skills etc are segregated, becasue you only want to play a tiny portion of the game. that is unreasonable for everyone who wants to play the game as a whole, which again is what jagex intend.
there is no sense in achievement, when people like you without any real mastery of the game (sorry, i looked your stats up) wear the same cooking, fletching and quest capes as us other players. there is no incentive to train skills (other than dungeoneering) for endgame content, quests should be another reason to do exactly that.
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I think that we need to make it clear that if Jagex wants to put in quests with higher requirements than we have now, they must first make sure that the effort to get to those levels must be engaging and enjoyable. I do not want to have to grind to get to a quest. I want the time I spend to get to, say, level 85 hunter to be nearly as fun as the time I spend completing the quest that requires it. If it isn't, it should either be removed from the requirements, or new content should be released for hunter first.
Or, there should already be a quest that requires a similar, slightly-lower level. For example, WGS required 75 magic before Love Story came out and required 77 magic. A later quest might reasonably require level 80.
I strongly disagree. It's the bit between the quests that shouldn't be a chore, because we're talking about the meat of the game. Love Story only really requires level 75 because you can just use mind bombs, but I disliked the task of getting Magic to 75 in the first place. Alching and Humidifying for a long time bored me out of my skull, as it does to anyone. If they released a quest that gave me enough xp to get me from the highest magic requirement of a quest before WGS, whatever that was, to a level reasonably close to level 75, or even better a new way to train magic that was engaging, I'd be satisfied.
Another one of my gripes was the unpottable 69 Smithing requirement of Rocking Out.
you're basically saying "I wanna do everything with just quests" just as pures complain "we wanna do everything without *insert stat here*
jagex' opinion on the matter, is clear, logical and reasonable: you do your thing, they'll do theirs. it's better for the game if things are integrated, making it a single game, rather than a bunch of minigames stuck together on one account (i'm not implying the old word for "activities" here).
suck it up, any level based rpg is based on playing time to progress, rather than only inherent skill. get the levels, or you don't get the content. it's the MAIN MECHANIC OF THE GAME. if that's too much to grasp, play a non-level-based game, don't complain here about a part of the game we all know is there, and is the driving force of it. if you don't want to throw balls bowling, play darts, don't complain about having to throw a ball in bowling.
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they should require high skill as skills are getting easier maybe 75 magic 2 years ago when wgs came out was considered high but now thiers at least 750 people with access to the max forums
tbh i dont think 120 dg shuld really play a part i this o.o that is the endgame skill so tbh someone that has reached all 99s has reached the end game and dg is only way to lvl
yeh the quest cape does make people feel entitled to wanna do all quest
i havent done love story or the 2 void quest but i did get a quest cape once and alot of people would feel upset if they came out with uberhigh requirements at this tim like 90+ farm or 90+ construction but they shuld step up the requirments gradually like they said.
next quest requires 69 agil then the next 74 agil then the next 78 agil and then 82 agil people will have the skil at the lvl from the other quest it wont sem so daunting
yeh i know how it feels to have content that you cannot access i didnt have a firecape for icestryke when they were released.
2300 total is rank 6k and that is skill avarage of 92 so thats still a small population they can make quest that even a 138 has trouble with as thier are a ton of 138s!
so yes they should but it has to be gradual week to week
quest cape will definately become an uber cape if they forget to make a max cape ;p
let's look at individual stats. no quests will require all stats at once: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/99
99 att: 110k people
99 str: 155k people
99 def: 83k people
99 range: 70k people
99 prayer: 18k people
99 mage: 69k people
99 rc: 4k people
99 con: 6k people
99 dung: 700 people
99 hp: 100k people
99 agil: 7k people
99 herb: 7k people
99 theiv: 16k people
99 craft: 11k people
99 fletch 106k people
99 slay: 11k people
99 hunt: 20k people
99 mine: 10k people
99 fish: 38k people
99 cook: 130k people
99 fm: 50k people
99 wc: 97k people
99 farm: 9k people
99 summon: 10k people
hundreds of thousands of players have skills that are 92+ where you got your numbers from, is a mystery.
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It's obvious quests and skills are linked, duh. There's always a link because it's in the same game. Doesn't mean questing comes down to proving your skills.
All quests in runescape are "helping quests" where you do something for someone and get a reward. what can you do for them? "small favors" , puzzles and use your skills to aid where required.
i'd say that boils down to quests, coming down in significant part, to using your skills to further your adventures.
I think that the endgame quests should require some high level skills, but mainly in combat. I like to quest and do combat to have fun in the game, not grind skills. To me it would take away the point of questing if you needed 90+ skills to start one.
why is combat any different from other skills? is it because you like training combat? I happen to enjoy training runecrafting, and almost every skill in the game. what i don't like are the, to me, pointless quests with measly plot development, "requirements" that all npc's basically fulfill, giving no reward.
I'm going to have to grind through the last 4-5 quests released soon, there's been no incentive to do any of them, but i'll probably have to grind through them sometime, as a requirement for quests that actually develop the game.
you say tomato, i say tomato [oral expression doesn't translate well onto forums]
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i need level 85 hunter and 80 agility to catch a butterfly with my bare hands. How can you then be an epic quester with stats that are any lower?
Because quests are about solving plots, saving damsels in distress, stoping Lucien from destroying Runescape and such, not about catching a butterfly or a monkfish. You can catch a butterfly, great you're better than me at it. But still, you can catch as many butterflies as you want, it won't make you a better quester than one who is skilled at questing... that's like if you trained at cooking food in real life to later know how to fly an F15 bomber lol. Questing and skilling are two different activities for a reason.
I'll break it own for you then:
solving pots: quest unique, no relevant skill, experience (quantified by exp) relevant
saving damsels in distress: requires skills for saving i.e. combat, or abilities, i.e. skill puzzles.
stopping Lucien from destroying runescape: huge combat requirement, all brain and no brawn = dead quester. you're talking about beating a God here, you'd better be good at surviving (hp, defence, agility etc. etc.)
yes, skill requirements for quests need to be relevant. If i were to catch a mosquito with chopsticks (or any other trivial "small favour" npc's require of us in quests) it'd be an advantage if i knew how to catch a butterfly, would it not? I'd need to be even more agile, and even better at hunting. oh look! we have two skills that match those prerequisites: hunter and agility!
let's say i were to repair a cavern (not in the brimhaven volcano or anything), wouldn't it be an advantage to be able to repair things, and clear rubble safely? oh look! mining and construction!
I don't need to catch a butterfly to fly a plane, but to build myself a scuba kit in the medieval times i'd need to be either proficient at magic, OR i would need to be sincerely good at crafting and engineering (oh look! crafting and construction!).
you need skills to perform tasks in quests. otherwise you're just an obsolete administrator, not an adventurer (see the kingdom portion of the fremennik quest series, or "one small favour" and to see how boring and pointless that would be.
you can't argue for why quests shouldn't require levels involving correct use of logic and reason. your argument is emotive because you want to play all quests.
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in my opinion, most of the posters here just want to play all the game content without the necessary prerequisites for that to be reasonable. think of game logics, not just yourself here for a minute:
i need level 85 hunter and 80 agility to catch a butterfly with my bare hands. How can you then be an epic quester with stats that are any lower?
As a casual gamer over many years myself, I can't help but notice that all skills lower than level 50, and all quest niches (other than dungeoneering, which is new) for these levels are filled. most skills are now close to 70, for the quest cape.
Also as a casual gamer over many years, i notice that all players playing the game to meet the quest cape requirements from new high quests, can reacquire their cape very rapidly after a new quest is released.
With the first "endgame skill" being released, and no quest requiring a level higher than 77 magic, i can't help but think to myself that jagex need to release at least one high level quest instead of the ludicrous process of slight increase after slight increase (while still releasing pointless low level quests, an area of the game that is already over-filled). At the current pace, there will never be an "elite quest".
Jagex think a lot about their lower-end players (hey 92 is only half-way). The upper half of the game, after level 92, is all but empty. requirements in the high 80s have been ripe for a couple of years already.
why not skip to a lvl 90 mining / construction / smithing quest in the dwarven quest series? Dwarfs are supposed to be inherently superior to humans in these respects, so game logic demands high human stats to be of any aid to the dwarfs at all. Elves? easily 90+ agility to compare to their grace and self-control.
Viking quests: good navigators, born fishermen and berserkers. why not 90 fishing and 90 strength to rid the north of future troubles?
void knights: the void knights need champions, leaders and heroes. 120 combat doesn't sound unreasonable, with summoning and all.
two high level quests per one non-high level quest sounds reasonable, the upper half of the game has 0 quest points, the lower half has 308 and counting. That's quite a gap to close.
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I had the stuff for 250 overloads and 175 super prayers banked, so i'll do that first. Hopefully that'll get me 850-900k herb exp. Then it's either barbarian fishing or living rock cavern superheating for me. I personally think buying buyables is easy at any time, it's only a matter of how much i can be bothered merchanting, which i hate to do. i would train agility or rc, but 99 hunter with butterflies, and 99 fishing with barbarian fishing *should* get me somewhere close to 98 agility, and ZMI rc is actually kinda relaxing.
a fishing level, or a smithing and mining level would be nice. i don't really plan my playing, it's up to what's going on irl at the time.
I was lucky and caught the update early, and i realized 30m profit off my measly cash-pile at the time. i expect most items will crash sometime this weekend, and it never hurt to sell for max a ge update or two early, rather than min at the same price at a later stage.
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shhhh don't tell them! i want my free 30k exp a day in hard skills
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hunter: butterflies. highest one you can do at any stage. note the significant agility exp you will also gain, making them even more superior to your other options in terms of exp.
agility: do hunter first, the two advanced courses are almost identical in exp per hour, do the one you fail the least or enjoy the most.
the other advice is good.
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I would not say frost dragons. 1400 it took me for my first effigy there.
mith dragons, td's, solo gwd, dag kings are your best bets.
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deaths or bloods for profit BY FAR. at higher levels, the amounts of extra deaths you get "doubling" means deaths are more profitable than double nats even.
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yes you have to re-click the spot every time, so it's click intensive, but that can be done quite easily and quickly: move your rs screen to the left side of your screen so your mouse hovers over the fishing spot when it's at the left hand edge. then you don't have to move your mouse with precision to hit the spot quickly because you've already lined it up. i also have to say the free agility exp is really nice: i much prefer hunting butterflies or barbarian fishing to actuallly running the agility courses.