I have only 2 real issues with this update. 1.I do not consider it a skill, it's a mini-game. A fun and challenging one to be sure, but still a mini-game, not a skill. I could ignore this discrepancy if it wasn't for the fact that as a skill it will sooner or later be a requirement for quests and diaries. Another words, because it's a skill I will be forced to train it at some point or quit RS altogether. Neither choice is good or desirable. 2.I play solo, always. I strongly resent being forced into team play. The whole reason I play RS is because I can do it solo, at my own pace, in my own time. For most of the last decade, 7+ years, I have greatly enjoyed this freedom and have been proud to introduce over 70 new players myself directly to the joys of RS. These days are now gone (along with my RS pride). After a quick search of various search engines and MMORPG game sites, it appears I am not alone. The number of searches for Runescape like games is staggering. One game site reportedly crashed due to the surge in new searches. I take this the first of many to come death rattles for the old Runescape. I wish Jagex well in their new ventures and the new player base they hope to attract by becoming more and more like every other MMORPG out there. As for me, I will probably play on a bit longer (hate to give up that easily), but as soon as a quest or something requires a Dung (appropriate nick name) level, I'm joining the rest of the older rats, this ship is sinking, and the captains are proud of sinking it. ....glug ... glug .... glug ............ gone ........