Ok guys, From what I've just read, not many of you seem to know a lot about this and are just blindly making stuff up based on you're opinion (no offense). I am a person who completed every quest in Runescape and spent a good amount of time studying Runescape history and gods because I find them interesting. These should help: 1. I don't recall EVER reading that Armadyl was any sort of god of order, and even if he was and Saradomin replaced him, it doesnt mean he is stronger than Saradomin. Saradomin has MANY followers and items. Armadyl has very few. 2. Yes, there are many gods in Runescape who we have not discovered yet mainly because a follower of Armadyl says so in the Temple of Ikov quest. 3. Saradomon and Zamorak had a big battle which was called the God Wars. Saradomin had Zamorak beat until Guthix showed up, stopped the war, and said he would destroy Gielinor of another war was to erupt. 4. That makes Guthix the stronger than both Saradomin and Zamorak, but Guthix mostly sleeps until he is needed, so he doesn't take part of much. 5. Yes, Jas is an elder god. He gave the Stone of Jas to Guthix, which Guthix used to create everything we have today. The stone of Jas is what Saradomin and Zamorak were fighting for. The stone of Jas is also sometimes called the Eye of Saradomin because, as I said before, Saradomin had it in his possession later in the God Wars, with him on the verge of victory. ------------------ So...After all that, its safe to say Saradomin and Zamorak arn't lame at all. In fact, they are the most interesting. Guthix mostly sleeps the time away until he is needed, and Zaros was backstabbed by Zamorak in order for Zamorak to gain godhood. It is said that Armadyl and Bandos will return to Runescape to battle again, so will Zaros to get his revenge on Zamorak, and Saradomin, of course will probably be fighting against both.