Hi i dunno why you're so aggressive about it, did you at least take a look at the tutorials? are they totally useless? I dont think so. I dont know about you guys but I learned how to use 3ds max by reading a lot of tutorials. I sure think that reading free tutorials sure beats the heck out of paying a ton of $$ to take some 3ds courses. kindest regards, John PS yes it's my site, dont click on it if you dont want free tutorials Free 3DS Max Tutorials