Ok i'll keep my mouth shut. Coz some people don't seem to like to see me having the guts to bring the subject up. I just use my right to reply : 1) with rc gloves i can get well over 100 k xp a day, even without assist and becoz i get that xp i might be motivated to get even more ... Assisting doesn't work very well under 88... And when i use gloves with airs i can earn good money as well along the way. So it's "ridicilous" (sry but when others use it for me i use that word also for them, maxed out or not) to try and deny that people without rc gloves who get like 50-60 k a day (like a snail) don't have a disadvantage. And they don't earn money. Same with fishing swordies (good money along the way) compared to fishing and dropping salmon and trout (no money). 2) Don't underestimate the factor motivation and boredom in the game. When i can get faster xp rcing and fishing and make good money with it, I stay more motivated (and so do others). When getting only 50-60 k a day many peeps would get bored. FOG was clearly a way for jagex to fight boredom while skilling. 3) I still wonder y, if there isn't any advantage like so many of u say, so many high players play FOG. One would say they don't have the time to do that, coz they need to work on their skills to max out. Unless they start playing 15 hours a day of course and have spare time to play FOG as well. 4) As far as cb is concerned, i wasn't talking bout training cb on FOG, i was talking bout the shield u can buy with the tokens. And for range the green dh coif. I saw some people hit with it. Like I said, I won't post any more. I leave that to others who think they're the boss here and use foul language to protect their own status.