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Nope =( I didn't remove any last update, but I'm keeping a list of the ones I deleted this update.

List updated. I didn't bother checking for glithed accounts because that would take well over an hour (especially with the accounts that have unranked dungeoneering xp), and I simply didnt have time for that today. I'll do it sometime tomorrow or this week - unless someone else wants do it for me :P I'd make a spreadsheet to more efficiently check for these, but again I just don't have the time available. In any case, does anyone know if the P2P xp glitches have been fixed? Or should we still be cowering behind the walls of unshared experience? I seem to be updating eight times more often than I thought I would. Don't expect this to continue (though it might) :P . Link: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=top250f2p&sort=overall Note to self: Export list backup.

Note to self: New additions (Last updated April 25, 12:28PM EST): Larding888 (1414) Spaex (1409) Eminem777 (1380) Worm Brain (1357) Just keeping track of requests. I might update it later today, but there must be a whole bunch of new additions out there that haven't come to us yet. Would someone mind checking for potentials for me?

Dungeoneering Q&A QFC: 154-155-172-60845423 The main points I found were: -Batch 2 is coming up, but not within the next month. There will be new bosses, floors, rewards and themes. (Speculation: Most likely to be P2P) -There are no plans to raise the maximum level of any other skills as dungeoneering is the 'grand skill of skills.' -Experience rates have been set and will not change until Batch 2 is released; thus creating new floors and higher prestige. -Soloers may see more options in the future, but it is emphasized that raiding in large groups is more beneficial and encouraged. -The reward costs and maintenance will not change. -Jagex had a lot of fun making this skill. -P2P doors and rooms will remain in F2P. For some clarifications, consult the FAQ thread: 15-16-509-60760272 Discuss.

Found both the agility and hunting rooms. Thank you.

Very odd. I've never encountered that agility room in my life. Nor the ferret catching. (Though I have had to lure the ferret many times to a pressure pad).

I understand. Your extra level won't make much of a difference if any at all to the ranks. I hope Jagex fixes your accounts... I've lost a lot of respect for them recently. Would you mind telling us which door requires agility? I still haven't come to notice any doors requiring agility.

The new memberlist has been created, but I haven't added any names in yet. I made a seperate (hopefully temporary) rank entitled "Glitched" for those with extra agility levels. I'll add the name this afternoon, but only the ones on the previous list. It's up to you guys to inform me of new additions. Unless I have little to do I will update about once a month until around June or July when the hype settles down. EDIT: New list updated. (See link at bottom of my post). The ones with unranked dungeroneering xp and gained levels before the new skill made me really angry :mellow: , since I had to check if they had 2 agility. One of two oddities I found was Runman60, who has 3539 unranked xp. That would be level 18 dungeoneering, but in order to get 1371 total he would have to have 19 dungeoneering. Hence, I have listed him as "Glitched" for the time being. Hopefully he or someone else posts her e to clear things up. The other is that Negative12 had 1464 total before the new skill, and right now still has 1464 total. Weird. Didn't list him as glitched, though. Inform me regarding any more P2P xp glitches, list additions, and people who have become P2P. THE LIST! http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=top250f2p&sort=overall Unfortunately Runehead does not have the Dungeoneering skill implemented yet. HOWEVER, as of April 19 at 20:54 EST it seems that your dungeoneering level is shown in the "Duel tournament" dropdown for some reason. The Fist of Guthix statistics have also shifted to the Mobilizing Armies field. The error occurs where the list imports a certain cell on the runescape hiscores table (Suppose row 25 has your summoning level and xp, 26 is duel tournament, etc). Now dungeoneering has been inserted into the cell that was once Duel Tournament (in this case, dungeoneering is now row 26 and duel tournament is 27), and everything below it has shifted down by one cell. Don't know if that made sense, but basically I know why the list appears this way.

I have registered the new memberlist and am currently waiting for the validation. Lordjake - Can you please export the current list and copy the text from the file and PM me with it?

It's not possible, Animorph. Perhaps a possibility would be to make an official list that only includes those without P2P or P2P xp, and then have any claimed to have received P2P xp from dungeoneering contact Jagex to reset their P2P levels, since it's a glitch... Though I still don't know how they manage to get the xp. Please explain in detail how one gets this P2P xp in F2P... I know you can only get the shared xp if you could have done the task yourself. Maybe the door requires level 1 of the stat and it's glithed such that it can be done in F2P?

@Death7178: See Armeng90's spreadsheet here, and click on the Current Top 250 tab: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvO1U6u4OskDdENTUFc2MG0tWUlTY1NwZnZTaXJyY2c&hl=en He's stopped updating it since, but it'll do for now. @Central_Keeper: Yes, that would be the best solution. I also completely agree with the runecrafting thing. Finally, I will offer to update a new list if nobody else is available before April 18 at midnight EST. Would it also help to share the Runehead CP with another top 250 player? I would appreciate the help.

So what do we do with the people with 2 agility?... We can't just let them max out and be forever ahead of everyone else, but taking them off isn't a desirable option. It's either that or the other... I sent Jagex a bug report regarding this... Maybe they'll reset the accounts' agility levels? I'm not going to wait for this to happen as they usually take months to even read our reports or at least do anything about them. We need a faster solution.

So what do we do with the people with 2 agility? And how do you get agility xp?

That would be a good idea... Then we won't have to worry about the new "skill" kicking anyone off the old list.

Alright, this sucks. http://[Use Quick Find Code]/[Please Use QuickFind Code]?15,16,473,60753291 I'm being punished for being a level 90+ F2P, and the already slow xp just got halved. Thanks, Failex. Also, seeing that I'll have to work to 104M xp at no more than 5K xp per hour if I'm lucky I am seriously considering quitting because my goal has been made impossible. This is the first time I've used the word Failex in a very long time. Realized after reading 4 pages into this: http://[Use Quick Find Code]/[Please Use QuickFind Code]?15,16,522,60753517 Also find it ridiculous how on page 3 the JMod has clearly disregarded any arguments or better alternative put forward by the players. Again, one must understand that Jagex is a business - not simply an entertainment provider. By making a new "skill" that is impossible for F2P to train they'll just make more money, I suppose. MMG has said that he cares about the F2P community. He has done so, but at the same time has rendered the game impossible in F2P at the very same time; time and time again. It was an interesting "skill" for the first few hours, but it gets super repetitive after that. I guess it was fun, but after reading that post, I don't think I want to continue playing Runescape. The only thing that has held me back has been TDM all this time. Also probably the fact that maxing F2P was possible.

Looks like we'll have to halt updating for at least two weeks anyway. Thank you for maintaining the list, Jake :thumbsup:

Just a few fixes. Great job; all of the values that I have tested are accurate to 1 damage. Please be assured that I am 100% certain of the values for all proposed corrections Applicable to all proposed corrections: Ranged level: 91 Ranged Strength: +10 (Iron arrows) Maximum Hit: 134 (Calculator says 135) Style: Rapid Prayer: Eagle Eye (+15%) Ranged level: 92 Ranged Strength: +16 (Steel arrows) Maximum Hit: 146 (Calculator says 147) Style: Rapid Prayer: Eagle Eye (+15%) Ranged level: 93 Ranged Strength: +16 (Steel arrows) Maximum Hit: 147 (Calculator says 148) Style: Rapid Prayer: Eagle Eye (+15%) There were a few more, but I can't be 100% sure and will not include them here. Essentially, the only problem I find is that some of the values are 1 damage too high.

Shaazaam got P2P.

Hi Larlesiennex :P

Hooray! I now have 43 quest points. Beat the new quest in three minutes =)

Looks great, Water. Thank you. I'll stop by the occasional time.

Crime Essam was banned for macroing. Just as suspected.

I support. I'd consider using the same "rules" as well (i.e. different ranks and privileges for different members).

Does anyone else realize that the big bone prices are more ridiculous than ever imagined? Currently 37gp:1xp, and peaked at 40:1 last crash. That is, 5K xp costs almost 200K, and 1M would only get 25K xp. When I noticed that, I looked back at myself and wondered why I would waste 200K on less than 1% of a prayer level. Now I don't have a choice, if I wanted to ever maximize in F2P. What I'd like to know is, how are you all dealing with this? I'm finding it nearly impossible to plan going above my 90 prayer to even 91, while runecrafting body tiaras and savings towards a likely money-sink in the new skill. Side note: Why is the new skill likely to be a money sink? When it comes out; unless whatever is required to train the skill is sold in huge amounts in shops or can be obtained very easily by other means (which is still very possible), virtually everyone is going to place a demand on the item(s), thus causing the new skill to be very expensive, or even inaccessible (e.g. look at corrupt dragon) for at least the introduction period of the skill - a time when all of us Top 250 F2Pers will feel a need to train the skill in fear of plummeting down the list and even to the point of being removed. Prepare for the worst. You're welcome.

^Keep me posted =)