First of all, I support Jiblix so my bias will be evident anyway so I may as well get that out of the way. How much authority does a player moderator even have in this game? Jiblix wasn't part of the organisation, he was part of the community. Ideally, a moderators role is to act on behalf of the community not on behalf of Jagex (see quick chat for what player moderators alledgedly do, and compare to what Jagex actually want them to be). For a while there, this actually overlapped which was great as both Jagex benefitted and the community benefitted. Now, what the community wants is at odds to what Jagex wants. Backseat moderation is against the forum rules, as Jiblix being a former Fmod would be fully aware of. It isn't his place to tell people what to do if he doesn't have the tools to follow this up. The RSOF has enough name calling of 'WBM', and previously being a mod won't stop this. I disagree with this aspect, as the way I saw it we were told what to tell players to do. Telling them to submit a bug report and telling them that it is a bug are two different things. Yes, it does come down to semantics but details are important too. At worst, we were told the procedure of what to do if we wanted to do anything, but we didn't have to follow this (instead we could abstain from moderating such threads). In order to get them all on the same page, that would involve moderators either lying or keeping their views to themselves. Being a moderator has enough cons, not to include being a fake who spins the company line (not even a company who is paying them, but in most cases as a moderator you are paying them). I personally believe in being genuine, and as such I don't like lying about things. For a company that strives to profit, they'll make use of any free labour they can get as it increases the profit margins. Some Jmods wouldn't make it sound as bad though, but rather advertise it as an 'opportunity to hang out on forum help' :P. Here's one. I resigned from dual moderatorship. There has also been another retired dual mod that posted on this thread, along with a pmod that retired twice (once voluntarily, the second perhaps less so but still...). Also, look at the size of the fmod list at the moment. There was a stage when it was around 200 if I recall correctly. The impact they have on the game is almost negligble now. They can mute. Big deal considering that adbots are replaced within minutes and the ignore list would do the job anyway. They can't do too much else that a non mod can't do. They are basically an extension of Jagex, either helping out with menial tasks that they can't be bothered paying someone to do (hosting community events, working off forum help, hopping worlds muting adbots). If that made a difference, or if Jagex seemed to care, then it wouldn't be that bad, but it doesn't :(.