What a stupid reward, you loose one of the options to get fast thieving xp... :angry: No, I think the knife monkeys on ape atoll still stays there. But I havn't check'd yet. I'm interested as to what route you are using? Since several have been suggested now (eagles, shanty/sarim jail > hot air baloons etc.) I used the carpet to shantay pass, run due north to lumberyard balloon, to gnome stronghold, to Daero to ape. Then to jail on ape and to the king route. Has anyone else tried that route to see if it is faster? Yeah. But saving energy is a better option, right? Also, I think saving clicking is very important. I can't confirm which one is faster: carpet>eagle transport>eagle's peak>stronghold OR carpet>port sarim jail >entrana>stronghold Can anyone tell me?