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the song... is so wonderful. After listening to it 3 times in a row, the fourth time I broke into tears... this song is... I don't know how to explain... :cry:

I am a theist... lmao, they were put here on a purpose? :roll: Um... have you ever even studied virology? Viruses are unstable little creatures, which is what makes them so crazy. And if it's so intelligently design, how come we can stop them? Are we better than God in that case? From what part of IDiocy do you draw that conclusion, and what is the evidence for it, and what does it predict? Intelligent Design is NOT a theory. Period. It is a claim, it holds no weight. By "your", I meant supporters of Intelligent Design. And that's exactly what Intelligent Design does, it blindly ignores evidence to its demise. Anthropic principle. Have you heard of it? It knocks down your claim. No matter what the condition of the universe, there are going to be people saying "wow, there is hardly any chance of the universe being the way it is now!" I think a quote from Douglas Adams is most apropriate:

But the problem is, IDiocy claims that God IS the definite conclusion and that any evidence otherwise is wrong. And it's been ove 120 years, I think that's more than enough time for the Scientific Theory of Evolution to have ample evidence for it. Is this a joke? Evolution CAN be tested! Just look at vestigial organs, look at adaptation, natural selection, the DNA molecule, bone structure, taxonomy, Drosophila sp., so many tests for evolution that were passed! In any case, I believe the Bible is corrupted, so can you give me non-biblical support for Intelligent Design? And I don't want to hear crickets. Um... then start coming across them. I'm have yet to see non-biblical evidence for IDiocy. I'm being honest, are you fibbing? Because you act as if this has never been responded to by non-IDiots. Well guess what, DNA replication is a simple principle, COPY YOURSELF! Is it that hard to perceive its evolution? Start with basic prions that can self-replicate. Then, maybe a few DNTPs and some polymerase got together... Voila! Maybe 10 bps! "too complex" is nonsense ambiguity that is used as a smokescreen: Get it now? And here's to your flagellum argument: There you go, beautifully explained by talkorigins. God has no place in science. Science deals with ONLY the natural. God is supernatural.

I'm 16, and interestingly enough, tonight is going to be my FIRST time ever shaving. 8)

I disagree. Even mentioning IDiocy in a science class gives it more credibility than it deserves. In any case, it is bad philosophy as well; arbitrarily applying epistemology only when it is in your favor is questionable. The thing is, I'm paying the taxes that give money to those teachers that teach IDiocy. I sure as hell don't want them teaching pseudoscience with my tax dollars thank you very much. lol... if that low chance didn't happen we wouldn't be here to see it... how could it be any other way? :roll: That's not an ad hominem, because it isn't the basis for my claims against IDiocy. And reguarding the second part of your post, when I say accepted by the scientific community, that means that scientists accept it in the same way they do the theory of gravity, or cell theory, or the relativity theory. The point of science class is to teach mainstream scientific thought. It shouldn't be mentioned because it gives it false credibilty and leverage. But this isn't politics. In science, there IS a right answer, and a wrong answer. Either Newton's theory of gravity could correcly predict Mercury's orbital deviation or it couldn't. Either the Michaelson-Morley experiment proved the theory of ether or it didn't. Evolution can be disproved thus by pointing out a chimaera, or a population which is not in Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium but still does not change. Intelligent Design CANNOT be disproven, it does not belong in the science class, it should not even be mentioned as "an opposing theory". Right... it doesn't necessarily point to the Christian god... except that to join the Discovery Institute (where the idea of IDiocy came from), you must be a Bible believer. Ever notice that there aren't any non-Christians that promote IDiocy? And life forms are NOT too complex, lmao. And, Intelligent Design fails to explain the nature of the creator, who created the creator, ad inifinitum? It doesn't predict anything, it is not science, how many times do I have to reiterate this? Intelligent Design... yeah, it's so brilliant that virus and so many other pathogens were perfectly created for us huh? :roll: eh, hardly objective. I like http://www.talkorigins.org/ much better.

Now, if you do have a problem with teaching the origin of life (nothing to do with Evolution), then bring it about (in a new thread of course). And what I'm trying to say is, the origin of life has nothing to do with evolution because all self-replicating proto-organisms at the time were in Hardy-Weinberg Equilibrium and thus no evolution was occuring.

Evolution isn't about the origin of life. Look at the name, it is called evolution, which is change over time. Take a human baby for example. Analogous to the Scientific Theory of Evolution would be the observations of the growth of the baby. The baby grows into a child, then an adolescent, and finally an adult. This says nothing about where the baby came from, and, in the same way, the Scientific Theory of Evolution does not deal with how life started. And like I said, IDiocy is not science, it does not belong in a science class, it should not even talked about in a science class besides a mention that it is bad science and is not accepted nor endorsed by the scientific community. Just people lots of people believe something doesn't make it true; that's an argumentum ad populum (appeal to popularity; a fallacy).

The Scientific Theory of Evolution is the core of Biology. It has been sorted out, it's just that some people don't like it because it disagrees with what they believe in. The difference is, the people who are advancing the theory didn't say "This is the theory, and here is the evidence for it." No, they started with the evidence and then came up with the theory to explain it. The people on the other side, however, say "I believe x, y, z, and if anything says otherwise, it is wrong." That second line of reasoning is not scientific; it is nothing more than a rejection of unfavorable truth. And the schism isn't really even balanced. 99.9% of the scientific community accepts the scientific theory of evolution. The opposition often tries to puff itself up by showing itself as more widely accepted than in reality. The bottom line is, anti-evolution is hype. This is different from, say, the Special Theory of Relativity versus the neo-ether physics, which both sides have scientific arguments.

I'd be a little more scared if the built the Dr. Device from the Ender's Game books :shock: The whaty? (srry mods if my posts are odd, and make no sense, and are realy really anoying, but im super hyper! Go tea!) A weapon that disassembles molecules and builds on other molecules destroyed... so the more concentrated it is the bigger the chain reaction and the more isolated the target is the shorter it will be Um... this is a thread about history's inventions, not futuristic ones. :roll:

um... Intelligent Design is not a theory, it does not predict anything. Neither does creationism predict anything. That's what a theory does, it predicts. And... how the hell can you teach "Intelligent Design"? There is no evidence for intelligent design, period. And I'm not calling it "intelligent design" anymore, I'm calling it IDiocy, because that's all it is. I don't want the supernatural in a science class, science deals ONLY with the natural.

Alright then, how about the Pythagorean Theorem? Or the irrationality of Pi? Or any number of mathematical theories that are presented in a Math class? * Algebraic K-theory * Approximation theory * Automata theory * Braid theory * Brill-Noether theory * Catastrophe theory * Category theory * Character theory * Choquet theory * Class field theory * Coding theory * Cohomology theory * Computation theory * Deformation theory * Dimension theory * Distribution theory * Field theory * Elimination theory * Extremal graph theory * Galois theory * Game theory * Graph theory * Grothendieck's Galois theory * Group theory * Hodge theory * Homology theory * Homotopy theory * Information theory * Invariant theory * K-theory * Knot theory * L-theory * Local class field theory * M-theory * Matrix theory * Measure theory * Model theory * Morse theory * Module theory * Network theory * Nevanlinna theory * Number theory * Obstruction theory * Operator theory * Percolation theory * Perturbation theory * Probability theory * Proof theory * Quantum theory * Queue theory * Recursion theory * Representation theory * Ring theory * Scheme theory * Set theory * Sheaf theory * Singularity theory * Spectral theory * String theory * Surgery theory * Theory of equations * Topos theory * Transcendence theory * Twistor theory What should be taught as an alternative to those... :roll:

"Intelligent Design" is not science; it should not be taught in a science class, even as an "alternative". Teaching "Intellegent Design" is the equivalent of telling kids in sex ed that babies come from storks. And lol at forcing kids... So I guess in math we should accept answers besides 2 + 2 = 4 because some kids don't believe in it? :roll:

I would have to say the invention of the saddle has to be a very important one.

//I fixed up the Averages.java a bit! I had to peek at chapter 6 while my //teacher wasn't looking... later on she caught me and I got in trouble :roll: //So... I am using arrays now... so much better! //Now, up to 50 numbers can be entered... import cs1.Keyboard; public class Averages { public static void findAverage() { double sum = 0, mean, median, mode; int numbers; final int NUMBERS_LIMIT = 50; String order; String stringArray[] = new String[NUMBERS_LIMIT + 1]; double doubleArray[] = new double[NUMBERS_LIMIT + 1]; stringArray[0] = null; stringArray[1] = "first"; stringArray[2] = "second"; stringArray[3] = "third"; stringArray[4] = "fourth"; stringArray[5] = "fifth"; stringArray[6] = "sixth"; stringArray[7] = "seventh"; stringArray[8] = "eighth"; stringArray[9] = "ninth"; stringArray[10] = "tenth"; stringArray[11] = "eleventh"; stringArray[12] = "twelfth"; stringArray[13] = "thirteenth"; stringArray[14] = "fourteenth"; stringArray[15] = "fifteenth"; stringArray[16] = "sixteenth"; stringArray[17] = "seventeenth"; stringArray[18] = "eighteenth"; stringArray[19] = "nineteenth"; stringArray[20] = "twentieth"; stringArray[21] = "twenty-" + stringArray[1]; stringArray[22] = "twenty-" + stringArray[2]; stringArray[23] = "twenty-" + stringArray[3]; stringArray[24] = "twenty-" + stringArray[4]; stringArray[25] = "twenty-" + stringArray[5]; stringArray[26] = "twenty-" + stringArray[6]; stringArray[27] = "twenty-" + stringArray[7]; stringArray[28] = "twenty-" + stringArray[8]; stringArray[29] = "twenty-" + stringArray[9]; stringArray[30] = "thirtieth"; stringArray[31] = "thirty-" + stringArray[1]; stringArray[32] = "thirty-" + stringArray[2]; stringArray[33] = "thirty-" + stringArray[3]; stringArray[34] = "thirty-" + stringArray[4]; stringArray[35] = "thirty-" + stringArray[5]; stringArray[36] = "thirty-" + stringArray[6]; stringArray[37] = "thirty-" + stringArray[7]; stringArray[38] = "thirty-" + stringArray[8]; stringArray[39] = "thirty-" + stringArray[9]; stringArray[40] = "fortieth"; stringArray[41] = "forty-" + stringArray[1]; stringArray[42] = "forty-" + stringArray[2]; stringArray[43] = "forty-" + stringArray[3]; stringArray[44] = "forty-" + stringArray[4]; stringArray[45] = "forty-" + stringArray[5]; stringArray[46] = "forty-" + stringArray[6]; stringArray[47] = "forty-" + stringArray[7]; stringArray[48] = "forty-" + stringArray[8]; stringArray[49] = "forty-" + stringArray[9]; stringArray[50] = "fiftieth"; System.out.println("You have selected Averages."); System.out.println(); System.out.print("Enter the number of numbers you wish to enter (maximum is " + NUMBERS_LIMIT + "): "); numbers = Keyboard.readInt(); while (numbers > NUMBERS_LIMIT || numbers < 1) { System.out.print ("Invalid number entered! Try again: "); numbers = Keyboard.readInt(); } System.out.println(); for (int i = 1; i <= numbers; i++) { System.out.print("Enter the " + stringArray + " number: "); doubleArray = Keyboard.readDouble(); sum += doubleArray; } System.out.println("The sum is: " + sum); mean = sum / numbers; System.out.println("The mean is: " + mean); System.out.println(); } } //Now I need to implement the median and the mode... I have no idea // how to do that yet.

Who's to say what God's character is? If God can order Moses and his army to pillage, kill, and rape whole towns, what puts this out of line? And yes, it is possible to peacefully conquer a place. With God it is. Wait... I'm reading, and now I don't know what military commander you are even talking about. Looking at the verse, I see nothing about conquering Assyrians by a military commander, but rather, by "seven shepherds and eight princes of men". It states that the Assyrians will invade their land, and he (the Messiah) will save the people from the Assyrians. Jesus never did that, so he can't be the Messiah. All it says is that he will have old origins... nothing about "eternal" or "timeless". If it was concluding a thought, why is it in the same verse? That's the part that shoots your argument down. The next sentence states "Should the Assyrians..." and it goes on to talk about what will happen when the Assyrians invade their land. See that "he"? That's talking about the same previous he. This is the Bible we are talking about, not some lame school essay written by a kid that throws random pronouns everywhere. The "he" is obviously referring to the previous time the word "he" is used (the one that becomes great to the ends of the world).

I've taken Computer Science 1 for just three months now at school. And my class is filled with idiots, so we are moving along pretty slowly... Hell, some kids in my class can't even get the HelloWorld program running yet :roll: So yeah, if I take the long way of things, it's because I simply haven't learned the shortcuts (and believe me, I'm using things in this program that my class won't cover until like next month) Hmm, I would use a switch statement, but I am not sure if that will let me return to the previous functions of my calculator. I still don't know enough about it to utilize it. And yeah, I realize that having like 30 variables for that averages program was taking it a little too far, but the thing is, that's the way that I can do it from what I have learned thus far. And I even wrote a program called "IfStatements.java" that I used to get all those if statements printed out by the computer and then copying and pasting them instead of typing each one by hand. And the cs1.Keyboard import is basicly like the scanner class except better. It was written by Lewis and Loftus, who are the authors of the computer science book my class is using. It's really useful, especially since my school's computers don't have the scanner class.

Just because people claim not to see ghosts doesn't mean they aren't real. Thus, there is no rational reason to believe in ghosts. I rest my case.

Castro has NEVER declared war on anyone period. The only time he even used his military outside of Cuba was when Cuban troops were sent to Marxist Ethiopia to assist Ethiopian forces in the Ogaden War with Somalia in 1977. That hardly counts as being at war with any nation, and Cuba has never been in a state of war while Castro has been in power. Does it even matter "in general"? We are talking about the Moshiach here, almost certainly not an "in general" type of person which is to be expected. I'm sorry, I don't have that link. To be honest, I don't really read Hadith. I mostly read the Noble Qur'an. You should ask on an Islamic Forum if you want a better answer.

Yes, and I'm calling in to question the accuracy of the Bible which you use. Do you know the Hebrew word for eternal (or timeless)? In any case, for the Old Testament, I use the Judaica Press Complete Tanach. The Old Testament was written FOR Jews BY Jews, so what better source as to its meaning than Jews themselves? Not eternal. I'll readily admit that I do not speak Hebrew. But I think I'll trust the Judaica Press Complete Tanach over the NASB for the Old Testament anyday. Now, if this was the New Testament, I could take this further since I know a little Greek (The Greek word for eternal is ÃÆýÃâñÃÆýÃâùÃÆÃ

bjbj was actually supporting you, I think :) I don't have the time to read it all at the moment, but I do have one nit: String foo = new String("bar-" + someVariable); Why are you using a string constructor here? You've already set the variable type, isn't java okay with: String foo = "bar-" + someVariable; ? Yeah, it is. But I feel more confortable with the String constructor because it helps my Strings stand out when for other variables I only use a quick assignment statement. Oh, that's fine, I was just lazy. See, the reason it came out NaN is because the constants I put in make it so that the solution set for all three variables is all real numbers. Here's a real example of it: Cramer's Rule is to solve 3 equations with 3 variables: 2x + 3y - 2z = 4 3x - 2y + 2z = 16 -x - 12y + 8z = 5 I'll run this, and using Cramer's Rule I can find out all three variables: (^_^)WELCOME TO KIRBY'S CALCULATOR PROGRAM!!!(^_^) What would you like to do now? Type 1 for Decimal Binary Operations Type 2 for Fractional Binary Operations Type 3 for the Quadratic Formula Type 4 for Cramer's Rule Type 5 for Averages Type -1 to quit 4 You have selected Cramer's Rule Enter the first coefficient of the first equation: 2 Enter the second coefficient of the first equation: 3 Enter the third coefficient of the first equation: -2 Enter the fourth coefficient of the first equation: 4 Enter the first coefficient of the second equation: 3 Enter the second coefficient of the second equation: -2 Enter the third coefficient of the second equation: 2 Enter the fourth coefficient of the second equation: 16 Enter the first coefficient of the third equation: -1 Enter the second coefficient of the third equation: -12 Enter the third coefficient of the third equation: 8 Enter the fourth coefficient of the third equation: 5 D = 14.0 x = 3.0 y = 5.0 z = 8.5 What would you like to do now? Type 1 for Decimal Binary Operations Type 2 for Fractional Binary Operations Type 3 for the Quadratic Formula Type 4 for Cramer's Rule Type 5 for Averages Type -1 to quit -1 Are you sure you want to quit? Type -10 for yes: -10 (^_^) That was fun. See you again!(^_^) Press any key to continue . . . Do you get it now?

First off, Peace Be Upon You. Atheism - I have nothing against atheism really. As long as they don't bother me and leave me in peace, then I do the same to them. Where I'm from - I'm from Iran; I'm Persian. "7adeeth el rasool"- do you mean Hadith? Here, try this: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/ Bleh, that article is just that--- an article. She calls herself a "Sunni Muslim with Sufi beliefs" when the Noble Qur'an clearly states that sectarianism is forbidden. And she said one of the important reasons that she was a Muslim is because her parents were. That's totally wrong and goes against what the Noble Qur'an says. The Noble Qur'an states that people should not follow their parent's religions blindly. Now, I'm not the one to judge, but from that article, it seemed as if that women just didn't study Islam as much as I have. Anyone can write a book, that doesn't make you credible. As I said, the Noble Qur'an states that women must wear hijab, just as men have to do it. Wearing a headscarf with a long-sleeved shirt and jeans is fine. And one more thing, she states in the last paragraph of that article that the zero was invented by Arabs. It was the Hindus which developed it independently at an earlier date, and they should be the ones that receive credit for it.

Who said anything about one? I don't believe that either. You should get several friends, and it will come to you. Don't look for it, it should come to you.

just because people claim to see ghosts doesn't mean they are real. I've seen Santa Claus and the Easter bunny... :roll:

Poopingman did you even read my post?

Um... I made this calculator because the windows one sucks. Like I said, my calculator can do so much more and faster.