TipTopCat

When you do a skill and unlock something new almost every level, cons/smith/div, it doesn't really need a revamp. Only player boredom is making the leveling boring. Go play something else if it's not satisfying any longer...

No worries about asking. I really like the new course and I've been putting a lot of hours in to it, but I rarely do several hours straight. I've timed 30 minutes twice and so far I've had 50k and 54k (definitely not perfect laps). I'll attempt to do a longer run but I usually end up going afk at some point. With my frequent imperfect laps and going afk it's still usually 90-100k/hr. I think someone with perfect focus, good clicking skills, and some luck with the windows/light creature spawn could hit 110-120k There's a lot of factors that are going to effect it. How frequently you get the window in the mountain, the light at the top of cathedral or both. Then you sometimes get 1.2x multiplier tokens from the ending the course reward or from pickpocketing hefin workers. Then you sometimes get small agi lamps as a reward, I had 3 or 4 yesterday in 1.2 million xp (this reward can be a prayer lamp). In theory the scroll from the light creature familiar should effect the lamp and 1.2x token rewards but I've tried the scrolls a few times and they haven't had much of an effect and the familiar gets in the way of clicking on the zip line. I always use the perfect juju agility potion for the more frequent light creature and window spawns. At one hour a dose, you don't need many doses, maybe 400-500 4's, if you were to do 200 mill there.

Jebrim. Doing some stopwatch timings, without voice of seren. Starting them as soon as my character moves and ending it when character moves again out of ending animation. Only timing them once or twice so can't guarantee how perfectly accurate they are. The longest lap was 48.5 seconds for 1,328 xp. The lap with light creature up at the top (skipping one obstacle, the zip line) took 42 seconds for 1,245 xp. The lap with the window in the side of the mountain took 33 seconds for 1,162 xp (skips 2 obstacles - scale cathedral and vault roof)). The shortest possible lap with a window shortcut through the mountain and and a light creature at top took about 26 seconds for 1,079 xp. All longest possible laps puts it at 98.5k xp/hr. I am no tick expert and I'm sure there's places to shave time off, especially at the beginning where my character always ends up walking instead of running to leap across the walkway.

The short lap with window and light creature at top loses some obstacle xp so slightly lower xp for lap but still get the same end xp. Then the 2nd shortest lap is when the light creature is at top or the lap with the window open on the mountainside (i don't live much in the microcosm of tics and won't be timing which of those two is faster). In theory, according to runescape's official wiki, the new Juju potion for agi is supposed to open the window or the light creature every lap. I tried it for two hours (two sips) and it didn't make much of a difference at all. I've also noticed very minimal difference using enlightenment scrolls, although they're claimed to give you more rare rewards at end of the laps. I've received approx. 3 small agi lamps and 5 small prayer lamps. You also receive the occasional 1.2x xp token that's worthwhile to save until voice is active (if you don't have infinite income and value prayer xp). A very nice thing during Voice of Seren is you get roughly 50% (56% with first age outfit on) prayer xp. I've ran a fair amount when Voice wasn't active but plenty of hours when it was active. I've had some bxp to use up in prayer, but for 1.347m agi xp I've recieved 628k prayer xp. You can also get 20k xp a day doing more or less afk agility, follow the leader style. It's 10-15 mins, haven't really timed that one. ---- In other Elf related xp.. It's roughly 2200 crimson skillchompas per hour to do seren stones, 240k/xp hr with no boosts or bxp. That's with the voice active.. At a cost of about 4.5m per hour

Grats Alkan on 120 all .. ! He's really close to Silver youtube plaque as well, 3.6k subscribers to go. Keep on reaching those awesome milestones

get volatile and transform till you get tool you want and then recharge it and 'gain xp' repeatedly.. proto-tools you can choose what you want but you get 5k bxp less per tool. in the long run volatile will give you considerably more bxp.

Given the fm xp he's getting i would guess arctics

Fors did nats for rc until 60-70m and then he did zmi. He was running nats for 2 years or so on w36 when he was a part of ffdn. I think people are referring more to buying bonds for spins and hypothetically spending rlgp's as well for spins

The boots are nearly useless for FPF. They typically activate 1 time per full 6-7 minute round, about half way through (probably after the game thinks you've run for 1 minute). You would hope they would activate when you turn in A&B for herb xp, but they don't.

If the new skill is buyable, it could end up costing 20-30b+ for first person to get it. Maybe nobody at the top will be #1 unless they have a massive cash pile set aside.

lol @ economics and game theory. Meanwhile at MIT, here's two economics graduate courses on game theory. http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/economics/14-147-topics-in-game-theory-fall-2009/ http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/economics/14-147-topics-in-game-theory-spring-2005/ And an undergrad course at yale http://oyc.yale.edu/economics/econ-159#overview Glad someone's taking the idea seriously so we can continue having evolved game economies like the one we have in Runescape... And glad there's people to lol at it, so we can have a steady supply of workers at mcdonalds. BTW: these are all open courseware so you can download all the class notes and watch all the lectures

I'm not sure why people make fun of Jake for his construction pace. For some people it's one of the hardest skills to level in the game. It's very very click intensive to do it at a fast pace and not everybodies wrist/hand is built the same. For me, an hour or two and the pain is excructiating.. but, then again, I've been gaming since the Atari 2600 (we had pong as well and it was a lot of fun but that doesn't count.. lol). I was also a software developer for many years (and absolutely loved riding the boom as it hit San Francisco) so you have to expect some wear and tear over the years. Once again, I want to point out that computers are not the greatest things for our body.. I can credit several slipped disks (in my lower back from leaning in to the mouse while sitting and in my upper back from lying in bed or on a couch or w/e playing video games) and a lot of chronic fatigue the past few years due to the lack of energy flow the bad back has created from all my work and gaming on them. Don't say you weren't warned ... May as well also mention there's a study that's showed the longer your at a computer the more the white connective tissue between our brain cells deteriorates (it's what sends the signals and determines how fast we can think and solve problems). Here I am at the computer... it's a tough one to reconcile. They're also linked to ADHD/ADD, generally cause the eyes to deteriorate if you don't focus on something at a different distance on a regular basis and they have yet to determine what the radiation from the screen and the various parts within do to our body.

Speaking of Drumgun, looks like he has a really good chance of taking the monthy cons record, he already has the daily/weekly. If he finishes within a month, the record will be ~184m. http://runetracker.org/records-23 And.. how did he do a 50.2m cons day?

I have to agree about number1 boss. One person on the list has stated they plan to diy all the buyables. Their time to 200m all will be at least double or triple what's listed.

No comment on how old I was when I finally went back to school and got a computer science degree. You're never too old for school, and my taking a lot of time off after dropping out of school was one of the best things I ever did. The main thing is, are you interested in learning, do you read lots of informative articles every day. You could have a degree from the best school on earth but if you have no interest in continually learning and educating yourself you're no better off from it. Scientists are still trying to come up with a way to measure some of the other intelligence quotients. Just because there isn't a solid way to measure the growth from playing video games and watching tv doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Look at the person with a boring job that can name baseball statistics from hundreds of different players. Is their knolwedge frivolous? Possibly. Are they retaining an incredible amount of information as well as being able to dissect and disseminate it with their sports buddies? Yes... I think the real concern should be the damage to the physical body long hours of gaming causes. Stretching/excercising while at a computer every 45 minutes or so shouldn't be underestimated or dismissed. If you ever talk to an OSHA ergonomics coachs, or a chiropracter, this is one of the first thing's they'll suggest to anyone spending long hours on a computer. An Aeron chair and a proper desk/mouse/keyboard/monitor set up goes a long ways, but the regular breaks and excercise are the most fundamental.

When I see the money argument, I think about how many of the players that "merched" for cash used bulk flipping during the era after free trade started. It took very minimal effort to make 5-10m a day out of each of your slots on the ge. You could own 2k furies put them all up for sale and have a buy for 2k to replace them at the same time and if things went well you didn't have to go back to the ge at all that day. That wasn't working for cash that was 5 minutes of time to make 2k x (5-10k) gps. Is that real money making? Or maybe, like in a video we saw of Telmo, you had 200k frost dragon bones that were bulk flipping all day, for upwards of 1k profit each with very minimal effort. Maybe you spent 1 hour a day at the ge to bulk flip but it didn't take much time either. In Zarfot's era of merching you weren't doing too much more then buying 10 ags, 10 tassy/chestplates, 100 furies every 8 hrs and right there you had already done enough to make the kind of cash he was making. Yes, it was efficient, but there was also nothing hard or time consuming about the cash making. Just off the AGS's when people got lucky they would make 10-30 million a day. Or if suomi wanted to, he could have joined the dicing ranks for probably no more then 1 month of 16-hr a day dicing/flowering and he would have paid for all of his buyables in that time. Two months at max. He'd still be far ahead of everyone in hours left in any of the "smart" money making scenarios.

Running, even without any performance enhancing substances, is hard on the body. It's a great example of something that is a supposedly healthy productive way to spend time, yet it's speeding up the deterioration of the body. You know what's really hard on the body? Getting one of those big computer company jobs developing programs all day long. 60 hr a week workweeks sitting at a chair on a computer clicking leads to the exact same place as gaming, except you're getting 6 figures a year and people think you're cool because you work at google.

Looks like he'll move to rank 10 on the hiscores by the time he's finished with summ, in addition to beating all the current records

In addition to the time saved, if someone were to do 200m prayer (with todays prices and no runners) they'd save 220m on frost bones by using the 6% avatar bonus. Given most the bonuses stack, by using wings and wisdom you could save more.

Good work, now time to get them to ban the ones just under 200m.. :)

The guide you pick up at clan camp said the 6% as well. I don't recall the 3% but that's fantastic as well.

idk if it's more efficient but 5 mages bonfire for 10% hp bosst for the hr of c2 fishing seems to work out well.

They're both using the same fc for doing rc. It's just a matter of who's putting more hours in.

To get it really accurate I'd love to see the ratio doing f60 over and over. As well as taking a look at how a person or two to take out the boss while you're skilling effects the ratio.

Team = having someone clear the GD's for you while you skill, standing next to ur next skill plot so you can telly to it, and, if we're including firemaking, standing at the beginning of ur next firemaking row. Depending how rich you are it might include a person or two to take out the boss so you get some extra dg xp and tokens. Solo, and at 93 dg, I've been averaging 1 dg xp for every 10 fishing xp without clearing the bosses. When you leave your floor and start over, if you simply hit confirm on the floor dialogue instead of selecting a floor first it auto sets you with your highest floor. That's why the 1:10 dg:fish ratio. You do have to buy an anti-poison on the higher floors, but that really doesn't add much time to the set up. For someone soloing c2's that's 120 dg, doing the highest floor over and over and quitting before the boss, there's a good chance they may get around 30m dg xp while getting 200m wc/fishing. Obviously, paying a team would be faster, you would get more dg xp if you pay extra people to kill the boss, you wouldn't have to join a team and set up the floor every time, and you would get tokens as well for an additional 10% xp boost. Although most the top players are 200m dg already, Gem's calculator might want to factor in 20m+ dg xp that takes zero time to gain.