thanks:) its not that i can't sell anything, I just choose not to :) @Crusader_diy, I'm not very active, and not really into clans, but I wouldn't mind adding you to my friends list or talking in a cc (or i guess its a fc now for friendchat) Okay, we are using "super diyer" as our temporary fc as a place for fellow diyers to chat whether or not they in the clan, not very crowded because atm only ~5 diyers active, but feel free to join any time. We would appreciate your presence, as the goal is to help diyers share ideas and strategies, which tend to be very different from other peoples' ideas/strategies; we may have to settle for just having a fc as most diyers tend to not like the idea of a clan, lol. Since your skills are by far the highest I've seen in a diyer, your advice would be particularly valued. From my google and forumn searches, the 2nd highest leveled diyer is super diyer, you may want to get to know him. The main reason for me wanting a clan is to spread the knowledge that being diy is possible, as it was something I had never thought of until my friend told me about it.