So I've done the slog to up my herblore to a decent level, enough to make anti-fire potions. By then I had quite a few spare lower potions I wouldn't be using myself anymore so decided to sell them at the GE. I got what I thought was good gp for them, however ... later I checked what standard gp price the ingredients sell for, and put together, the potion sells for much less than the ingredients. I find this pretty poor because I've heard many discussions by other players who can't be bothered upping the herblore skill themselves to be able to make the potions themselves, the main comment was was that it was too expensive - because they buy all of the ingredients instead of gathering/growing them. So wouldn't the potions, especially the higher one's, then be worth more? Saving them the effort and expense of getting there themselves? For example, a combat potion, which saves space in the inventory by being both a strength and attack potion in one, contains harralander and goat's horn. The clean harralander by it'self on the GE sells for 444 gp, yet the final combat potion sells for less than that, can't remember the price, but it is less. That's not taking into account the goat's horn yet either, which isn't all that simple to gather, there are only a cluster of 3 goats closest to the desert entrance, with a bank quite far, the better cluster, of 3 and 4 are right down the bottom of the dessert, with a handy bank, but there is no water source so you need to use up whatever water source you have in the bank to keep going, as well as adorning a boring dessert robe. Heaven knows what price goat's horn sells for on the GE but I'm betting it's not cheap. I've found a similar trend with finished products on the GE. Pineapple pizza, any pizza actually, ends up selling for way less than the cost of the ingredients if you weren't to grow/gather them yourself. Similarly, goods that include the container, such as a pie - using a pie dish, don't include the value of the container. This goes for the potions too. I make all my own vials to save buying them and gain a bit of crafting xp at the same time, they are free with the potion it seems, as well as the loss on the potion ingredients. The only finished product I found, that I checked, that actually made a profit on the combined ingredients, were the gourmet potatoes ie with toppings higher than cheese, and thank goodness/rightly so for that! as they are quite a bit of effort to make, the butter being the worst. This trend needs to change. Those of you who are selling potions, food, armour etc, I hope you start selling them at a price that includes the cost of the ingredients plus your labour and skill level you worked hard for to be able to make them. In the very least, because I'm guessing the current prices are to deter easy levelling thus profiteering, the price should be raised somewhat. anyway ..