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Actually, it makes all the difference in the world … A childish evasion but your answer will be most telling: Do you or do you not support rule breaking within the game of Runescape? Yes or no? ------------------- ===== -------------------- Correct, I did, and I have abided by these said rules, apart from possibly the occasional swearing in game that got me in trouble. However, just because I agree to these rules does not mean I agree WITH them. If I were in a position to makes thousands of dollars a month doing relatively no harm to others (except maybe spoiling little Billy's time on some MMO), I would, though. I see, and in real life, did you formally agree to any terms and conditions -- you know -- to abide by the laws/rules of your country of residence? Probably not, but I simply want to ask this question for the purposes of clarification ... As far as rule breaking in the game, I can tell you right now that a large majority of Runescapians do it, and why, simply because they can. As far a social contracts go in your argument and what we all signed up for, well that went out the window a long time ago. Examples are quite simple, among them are these few that come to mind effortlessly, the use of inappropriate language is one, when I initially joined it was a no no but instead of muting players for indecent language, Jagex brought in the profanity filter, I swear on game not to a huge extent and I do have my own personal intolerances to language used in game but if you don't want to hear it , then use the filter, if you don't want to then don't complain about the language, So using your argument of social contract with Jagex, Jagex changed the terms. Another one was that Jagex wanted to remove gambling from Runescape, so they bring in SOF, which is laughable, but also it generates more income for Jagex, so technically Jagex is using that desire or need in someone to who has a weakness and profiting off it. I think your term 'social contract' just diminished further in your argument. The list does not end there, broken promises on the side of Jagex has left many players disillusioned on this game, I being one, I love to play it, I am now at the point that when Jagex says they will remove something from the game which is more harmful that a player selling gold to a company, they just simply TALK it up, there will not be any real changes, much like when they removed Wildy and Free trade, the moment they did it, it was back on the drawing board to bring it back when they needed the advertising push to place the Jagex company back onto the public forum to promote their games much like the 200m player countdown. Lets face it, we are all being manipulated and the contract I signed up for was voided within a few months, so I look at it totally differently now. Lets face it, we are just pawns in their game play and as long as we keep paying the membership, buying coins and spinning that wheel, you can talk about social contracts and nit picking about rule breakages and social contracts until the end of time. Attacking one persons view on rwt is more childish than the initial comment, throwing in social contracts and rule breaking doesn't mean anything. The problem is not someone's personal view on rules on a game, everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion, I have mine and I wouldn't mind at all if Jagex brought into their Solomon store some kind of gp transfer. And if it personally does not bother you in the slightest what anyone does on the game, why argue a point which will not receive and answer

If that is all your asking its simple, no, it does not affect the game negatively when you sell it, so you will always get that answer. It does appear to affect the game on the whole when the greed of the companies dealing in rwt decide they want more gold in their pocket and then create more accounts to do so. The legit players on RS do not make up enough for them to keep up their business even though RS is just one small game on their forums that they sell gp back to players for profit. So now that question is answered. Maybe we can move onto something else rofl

Blyaunte = Ok, before we really get rolling on this, I have to ask -- when did it become the official position of this forum to openly promote and condone rule breaking within Runescape? I do not think its anyone openly promoting and condoning as such, its a fact of life on Runescape that it does happen and has been happening for years, I would be interested in seeing an ending to RWT personally, but that wont happen, so why not open the discussion, could be a chance that perhaps Jagex will do more than make comments about legal proceedings against companies doing such things, I did have a chuckle, I open up the forums on Tipit and right there up the top was an advert to buy Runescape Gold, delivery guaranteed in 5 minutes lol.... sorry my bad. But with all the broken promises on delivering in the game by Jagex themselves, RWT is the easier alternative for competing against bots on RS. We all know that, so get rid of the bots, that's not going to happen so why not cut out the middle man... your all speaking hypothetical and throwing rule breaking etc. into the mix to win an argument wont change the problem, fact is, they are here, its easy to obtain if you have the credit card to pay for it, the bots are here to stay and have only become worst over the past 5 years I have played and the only time any one can seriously enjoy a private slayer moment or some quiet time at the Yews in Catherby, is after an update well for about 6 hours anyway. I personally think merching is the big thing more than rwt that actually affects anything thing to do with the market on ge. The average RWT either blows it gambling at duel etc., or blowing away runes with maging. I am not saying anything new, I know being in a fcfor a soul warring crash clan for shits n giggles, that the comments flow saying we lost because of rwtraders and their access to continually being able to keep up with runes without actually leaving the yellow portal... but the merching clans seem to generate enough to be able to affect pricing on the ge market which is where the average, non rulebreaking person goes for items.

I am reading this and although it has been riveting to say the least with lots of finger pointing and nonsensical statements behind some of the posts, and sorry to point one in particular, but seriously? likening RWT to that of drug dealing in school yards, *shakes head*. If you think that, then I hope your not pushing the daily SOF button for your gambling addiction. I really don't understand fully how certain factors make a difference when it comes to deciding whether rwt should be part of a game or not or if it would in fact decrease the amount of bots if they were to be made acceptable, for the life of me, I don't understand why Jagex does not take advantage of it and produce something them selves in game and no I am not saying selling on ge, but if Jagex did like the have with hair do's and outfits in Solomons Store, wouldn't that remove that what everyone is complaining about which basically is the ability to buy and sell rs gold to rwt companies. I mean seriously, if we are to believe all that Jagex throws our way, their bot banning abilities would be able to cope to some extent on the companies that are using Jagex to fund their own business.... Take that business away, Jagex builds in their own access for players who, lets face it, have the credit cards to pay for it and then by simple logic, the bot companies using Jagex purely for gold in the real world, loose that initiative. Then bots would decrease as long as Jagex wasn't greedy in the ratio. They have done it with SOF and the Solomon, so why not extend to a kind of trade off with selling and buying RS gold. Jagex would of course make the profit either way. I just think if you take that away then the problem of bots would not be a problem. Cut out the middle man, Jagex still makes a profit and we should be happy because its kept in game.... I don't know, but it seems a lot is made out of something which has never changed and doesn't look as if it will in the future. Arguing to and fro and getting panties twisted with statements that just leave us confused and dazed as to what your really trying to say without answering the question directly, could be put to better use.

This has the hallmark of another rather infamous player on RS who was addicted to gambling and even made a YT channel to score free st00f from his loyal fans.... well that was before they realised what he was doing..... now, what was his name again.... speckled muff....um.....sperk merk..... sheesh my memory isnt what it used to be lol

I refuse to believe that no one would not bless your grave, I would never choose chaotics over something that I have borrowed from someone regardless of whether or not they have a ton of money in game. Your story is complete crap and if anyone on RS chooses to loan you another thing then they are bigger fools than you are with your attempt to treat us like total fools in your attempt to make us believe your crap story. And if this story is in fact true, you should at least message Stev with the names of who was there because if your to be believed, then they scored a set of pernix and a divine. I apologise to you Stev, there are obviously people who believe because you have a crap load of gp on RS that you can afford to throw it away and to be used in such a way. Ambler3 told me in PM that he had no gear, he was waiting for Stev to loan him pernix because he had lost his bank at Duel. No wonder he refused my Arma, you cant really do much staking with that now can you rofl.

Jagex listening at all is a first ....

Congratzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz GF.... well done to the clan too btw, awesome bunch of people and I am writing my speech for that podium lol