Noxx: I think you are missing a rather major point. Crashers can actually speed up your kills and drop rates if you have an edge in combat. I don't have a lot of experience at Bandos, but I can tell you that I have used this to my advantage at the Tzhars when they were loaded with ~lvl 100 bots. I dont remember the exact numbers, but say if I solo the kets, and my avg hit is for 200 and it takes 6 hits on avg for me to kill them. That would mean they have 1200 hp. I used a whip, and lets say it takes 4 sec per hit. So an avg solo kill for me would be one every 24 sec. Now suppose 5 bots and I simultaneously attack a ket. They are level 100s, and their avg hit is say 100. I still lost kills because there are 5 of them, and sometimes they get a good hit in and I splash or hit on the low side, but suppose they just hit their avgs, and so do I. The 5 of them hit for a total of 500, and I hit for 200. We hit a second time, and now the ket is dead from the additional 700 hp. Those two hits took 8 seconds. If I only get half the kills, I get a drop every 16 sec, which is a faster drop rate than what I would get solo (every 24 sec). On average, I did get well over half the kills, except when there were so many bots that I got overwhelmed. On the other hand, if there were tons of bots, it was more likely that one of them would get lucky, and my success rate would go down. So in fairness to your argument, a band of crashers with moderately inferior levels or equipment, could greatly reduce your kills, just because their is better odds one of them getting lucky.