Dreyri

there's 1 hour of waterfiends. 438k xp/hr

the last 100 tears will be slower than your first 1000 tears, I should know ^^

should be end of august, I'm excited :)

yea I love that task, forgot to do elemental workshop 1 so didn't get that one though >.<

yea, mining 100% warbands, smithing about 50m xp from warbands. fight cauldron is easily 420k xp/hr with 200k fletch xp/hr. Heard the damage reduction was nerfed a bit though, will have to try it out. Agility is easily over 140k xp/hr with challenges, should be enough time for another ~30m xp from that, best after that is flash powder factory or horn at ~100k xp/hr.

Or why not just simply quit the game and play again when they feel like it? Mindlessly forcing yourself to play is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.. The amount of people that quit for 2 or so months then come back is ridiculous. Afking while doing other stuff on your computer saves a lot of time. I could be doing absolutely anything on my computer and I would be able to runespan. If I ever feel like quitting that's where I'm going :) Might aswell go outside if you quit

Only if you can't get to 200m firemaking before 5b it would be worthwhile burning all the logs from c2. I believe it is in this order. book of char > circus > char's training cave > c2 book of char alone is 1m weekly firemaking xp, with circus and char's training cave this becomes 1.2m weekly firemaking xp. Anything leftover should be from burning c2 logs.

If you want to losslessly kill the monsters I would use the setup drowns has in this video minus the ssh. this would be 140k fish/hr when killing monsters before/after doing resources dual primal knives seem to have the highest dps. this would be 120k fish/hr EDIT: looks like I was a bit slow, both videos are valuable for a real time demonstration and xprates one should expect. Sorry to everyone else if I intruded a bit loudly into this thread, I didn't mean to argue with anyone about which methods one should use. These are the methods I and many others have found sustainable in terms of cost through daily flipping and investments and not burning out. On top of that c2 is so much fun if you get into it.

I am not interested in doing weekly TT220m calcs. Those who might've been interested in doing some more efficient method have the link to the spreadsheet and I never have to bother with your hate ever again. As to the accuracy of my xp rates, I can prove that all of these rates are 100% possible. My calculations were meant for efficient players who don't waste xp. I'm sorry if you felt threatened by a post which is actually on topic.

with drygores and bandos, 440k xp/hr at waterfiends. at fight cauldron with drygores and obsidian armour 420-460k xp/hr + 2 lamps/hr and 200k fletch xp/hr inbetween rounds

waterfiends until 200m summ is banked, fight cauldron after this.

well as the human beings that we all are it's only really possible to achieve 75-90% of the efficiency required to get this time to 200m. On top of that alkan only achieves around 70-80% of the possible slayer xp/hr because of his afk/momentum addiction. If he wouldn't have had his nooby and never went to 07 he would've been 3rd in TT200m. I'm 90% sure Dragonseance will do c2 skilling to finish of his woodcutting and fishing. Looking at how Geel is beasting through slayer I could easily see him do c2 fishing till 200m. It's not my concern if top ranks decide to waste xp.

ok I wasn't aware of the xprates being only 1150k/hr at just 20gp/xp. If one already has this kind of capital it would be more efficient to bank 200m crafting in dragonstones. That would increase crafting xp from 340k xp/hr to around 730k xp/hr over 2x increase. Crafting is a very touchy subject anyway due to the slightly varying xp and cost rates between methods.

my calcs take into account capping at 200m in either one of these skills and then just continue with woodcutting or fishing in c2. not taking into account a training method which is about 2x faster than the best overworld xp is just stupid imo. If they really want to get all 200m first they will work this hard for it. Running long and curved bones is way over twice as fast as mahogany tables. Why don't you include that in your calculations then? c2 skilling doesn't cost anything so it's the better option for everyone. zombie implings are extremely costly for saving only around ~150 hours compared to mahogany tables. I would like to argue that 1500 hours for zero extra cost is more relevant. same could be said for cutting dragonstones which would also save around 200hours. or not being able to get all smithing xp through warbands which could make a difference of up to around 400 hours. These are all very minor compared to c2 skilling. I don't think Gemeos2 has warbands included either. another 1000-1500 hours difference to most of these top ranks.

my calcs take into account capping at 200m in either one of these skills and then just continue with woodcutting or fishing in c2. not taking into account a training method which is about 2x faster than the best overworld xp is just stupid imo. If they really want to get all 200m first they will work this hard for it.

I will quickly post a compile of my calculated times for all currently released skills. Would be a bit easier to digest. Drumgun - 3068 hours - 72.7% Jake - 3090 hours - 72.5% Jdelacroix - 4135 hours - 62% Dragonseance - 4301 hours - 60.4% Elvis - 4446 hours - 59% Elias - 4574 hours - 57.9% Geel - 5179 hours - 52.3% Alkan - 5458 hours - 49.7% Kingduffy - 5728 hours - 47.2% Y0 Sushi - 5864 hours - 45.9% AlmostLost - 5994 hours - 44.8% Robbie - 6019 hours - 44.5% Crystalfarm - 6038 hours - 44.3% Paperbag - 6215 hours - 42.8% Paulrat3 - 6473 hours - 40.4% My kingz - 6606 hours - 39.1% Carcass - 6889 hours - 36.5% Makaveli93 - 7037 hours - 35.2% Bing - 7309 hours - 32.6% Note that these times are assuming 100% warbands for mining and smithing, which is impossible for most of the top page players. (doesn't affect rankings) Firemaking dailies is also something most seem to forget and c2 skilling for woodcutting and fishing. Data from here pm me ingame for questions, I will most likely not answer on tipit.

Dragonseance asked me to calculate a rough estimate for time to 200m so here it is. Time to 200m some of my personal thoughts Jake - 3100 hours (+2000hr divination) (+400hr unnamed skill) Very close to Drumgun in terms of time to 200m. His obvious advantage would be only needing 495 days of warbanding to get 200m warbands. Assuming the new skills would be 100k xp/hr and 500k xp/hr respectively for Divination and the so far unnamed skill. It would be possible for Jake to get 5.4b xp in around 460-495 days. However Jake himself has said he has little interest in the game anymore. Jdelacroix - 4140 hours (+2000hr divination) (+400hr unnamed skill) surprisingly high time to 200m and low amount of efficient hours for a top page player from Jdelacroix. a favorite for warbands with only around 260 days left. Should he increase his playtime we could expect 430-520 days until all 200m. (12-15hr/day) 15hr/day are very unlikely though. Drumgun - 3100 hours (+2000hr divination) (+400hr unnamed skill) Although hindered by his low agility and farming xp Drumgun is known for his nolifing and massive xp gains. Should Drumgun step up his daily farming xp with frequent fellstalk runs we could see him getting 5.4b at around the same time as Jake. This next week will be crucial for us to find out if Drum is an actual contestant or not. With some efficiency we could expect drumgun to reach 5.4b in about 420-500 days. Elvis - inactive Elias - inactive Dragonseance - 4500 hours (+2000 divination) (+400 unnamed skill) Reaching 200m mining in approximately 375 days would mean dragonseance has around 85 days of smithbands to gain 30m free & fast xp. This would mean he has to gain another ~140m smithing xp through artisans, which adds around 400 hours to his time to max. Different from my calculations he will be using dragonstones to level his crafting which cuts around 200 hours from his time. book of char normally adds a weekly 1m xp, for dragonseance this is 1.2m xp because of weekly char arena and circus. In 460 days this would put him at 193m fm xp. to reach 200m within 460 days he would have to play 15hr/day. I will not include others for now as they do not come into consideration for the race to 5.4b right now. xprates on Divination and unnamed skill - The most important xprate of these 2 would definately be Divination. I have assumed 100k xp/hr as this is very similar to the rates of the current gathering skills. For the unnamed skill I assumed 500k xp/hr but this could vary anywhere from 300-1000k xp/hr. Lower than these xprates would help Dragonseance out the most as he could warband considerably more of his smithing xp. Drumgun would most likely not mind this too much either if he's actually going for all 200m. With higher xprates jdela would improve his odds greatly to be the first to 5.4b. Jake would also gain a considerable lead on Drumgun from this. on the topic of alkan having the fastest time to max - I am maxing my account and am at 38 days played right now. I have been playing on my account for 93 days now. Currently it looks like I will be able to max my account with 60 a'log days, though I have to agree with Alkan that 50 a'log days are possible. Key differences between mine and Alkan's account - My slayer rates were higher. Alkan got effigies and got more combat xp/slayer xp I had runespan for 1-99. Alkan did zmi for some of his runecrafting levels. the biggest one is warbands though, saving me probably those extra 8 a'log days. Do note this is my only account so I was not 100% efficient all the time, but I would say that 95% of the time I was playing efficient. All my money was made on this account. 2b from 07-eoc swapping and 700m from the ascension dungeon.