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agree, however, the stats wont be any better, cause its a 50 lvl hybrid armour, there gonna be a tradeoff. the only way to have better stats are higher lvl armour, which most likely wont be F2P anymore jagex make the requirement to get it a bit too high, then rewards are sux, but still so expensive now i only hope the price goes down, else it is almost useless like those rares

Doesn't its defense apply more evenly against all 3 styles too though? Not just no accuracy penalty but also a boost in defense rating.. but they lower the stats by a massive amount which effectively makes it junk? it is nice against ppl that use multi style, but weak against ppl that focus on same style, but can counter using prayer but the armour are too exp So it would be perfect in FOG? (Assuming people still played :( ) maybe, or maybe not, the hunter will be mostly 99% hit, unless their lvl diff are big not to say the lower hp compare to full 50 lvl dont feel like testing it either. its not worth it to just buy for FoG, while the population for FoG are low and FoG become whose combat lvl higher, who mostly win

Doesn't its defense apply more evenly against all 3 styles too though? Not just no accuracy penalty but also a boost in defense rating.. but they lower the stats by a massive amount which effectively makes it junk? it is nice against ppl that use multi style, but weak against ppl that focus on same style, but can counter using prayer but the armour are too exp

oh, nice, but if can sort according to combat lvl like http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Bestiary/Free-to-play, then would be nicer and not necessary must follow the combat weakness, can find mobs as high lvl / exp as possible or places with MANY mobs together that only need around 1 - 3 hit as long as hit rate are 100%, it should be fine.

you can try ankou or even lesser and deadly red spider, as long as the hit rate is high enough. however, for aggressive, i think only wilderness? i havent set foots on wilderness yet ever since i back. quickest method? i dunno haha, maybe high alch im the type that like slow and steady, as long as i like it, so wont so fast get bored.

well, it is a 50 lvl hybrid armour, there gonna be a tradeoff, the stats wont be on par with its same lvl armour, i kinna expected that but still i feel disappointed that something required so high lvl skills to just to get a 50 lvl hybrid armour at least available to F2P, but heh, each parts are paking exp man...... i mean WTH seriously? unless the price are dropping, else i dont think anyone will get it, not even ppl that do safe pvp often and i will LOL when someone wear it into the wilderness its more like a collections items for those ppl that had nothing else to spent

you mean train magic using combat? just find any spot with many mobs and start chaining, or find any spot with aggressive mobs and semi afk

lol, i just saying an example, they maybe saying a mistake or what but i agree that this armour will 99.9% be F2P, just hope it is a nice armour beside hybrid

it is not totally useless, but still it is something to wield on off hand than just shield or 2h. i just dont like that fact they released it as f2p then make it p2p later they write, ops, typo dragonstone armour are p2p only G_G >_<

omg, never noticed it because its under members only. we just had to wait for the leaks right before the updates edit: OMG, WTFH. they just gives us something nice, lets us have it for a few days then take it away. from patch notes The off-hand exquisite weapons on the Squeal of Fortune have been made members only to be in line with other duel wielded items

ya, quite nice stat also if compared to starfire. In the near future, the beta will be updated to allow free players access, prior to the release of RuneScape 3. edit: in 1st glance, i see that the off hand exquisite weapon looks promising, and i would love to get the crossbow. however, on second thought, the only bolt F2P have is bronze bolts :cry: so if you dont need the extra defense and dont like 2h, you can try one of the melee off hand. however, you will be unable to use 2h ability

eh? We can craft spider silk robes? haha, i thought all those new available cloth/robes are buyable only. i actually love the EoC updates, since the old combat are too dull. however, there are many pros and cons also, ones need to adept to the new combat style

How does one get the batwing armor? if not wrong, F2P cannot craft it, just buy it from GE

this is really bs, they should at least make F2P players with maybe 1.5k above total level in the highscores, now it is so hard to keep track other players level. if got some1 being online for a very long time, or the exp gaining very quickly in a short amount of time will sound the alarm for them to check i just back recently, so i dunno if jagex got say that F2P will get back highscores, but it seem that jagex keep removing things that are important to F2P

i used so many days to get updated through tip.it and RS Wikia, but those hidden updates and etc maybe still dunno. except dungeoneering which i leave it 1st for the time been (wanted to up more of my total skills 1st) rawr... i used so much times to understand the EoC, only around yesterday i can finally cope with it i just dont like the fact that ~ - my runecrafter set become useless - many mobs got ranged/magic attack - kayle' sling is too weak to use - sighted bow are weak now - some staff become 2h - some EQ such as antidragon shield, and some new implemented shield will rarely be used - 1-handed ranged nerfed so much yet didnt add new crossbow/bolt - no longer have random event to get exp lamp - they skipped yew bow and give us magic bow which magic tree are member (not that we can craft it anyway, but its still weird) - some skills are unchange throughout the 2 years, and etc dunno i should be happy to the free of charge magic training or not, but combat magic no longer need its conresponding runes magic is seriously imba with its chain and the 2x speed. > Sonikku i dunno if tip.it got this or not, but i found something useful at RS Wikia, search for "bestiary free to play" it show each mobs weakness, which greatly help after EoC. edit: omg, fire blast dual spell, on ice giant/warrrior is like pudding, with chain ability, they like just spawn to be killed, lol. i think it also can work on a group of higher hp mobs, however i dunno the accuracy of the spell since not the weakness. Stronghold of Security no longer have aggressive mobs !!! can anyone tell me where got aggressive mobs? edit: i think i just found my answer, wilderness and <(x2)+1, but got any lower lvl aggressive mobs? edit 2: so quiet =.=. anyway, found out that javelin are F2P, somewhat good and bad, it is not cheap and its always better to use the best shortbow that you can use with the affordable arrow. the ability greatly lower the amounts of runes and arrows uses, however, need to be constantly clicking on hotkey. the bestiary are very nice when looking to training targets without weak aggressive mobs, its harder to train combat skills, my old magic and ranged training partner favorite lesser and greater demon, now with magic attack while the latter one now need to go into pvp wilderness. pvp become so hard on F2P, due to too balanced combat system and less variety choice of armor. FoG are barely enough ppl to start a games really looking forward for future skills and EoC updates

yo, i recently thinking of playing RS back, this is my longest off from RS of around 2 years+ rather than the small break here and there, nth beat the good old time of RS. nice to see some familiar name are still here, ^5 with sonic coming back to RS around the same time. thx OTM for the spreadsheet, i still remember the time you just started that spreadsheet. this will definally help for my comeback. now, can you guys please update me what had i missed for this 2 years? i remember i stop sometime after clan citadel update, cant remember too clearly.

i wasnt saying about myself, but other ppl, remember Jagex last survey show that most of the people still using low end pc to play. my pc is more than enough to play RS in HD. even though i using adblock plus, but i allow it to run in Rs. most of the time i am using RS client, since 1 click access to the homepage. while i just using CSS to hide it. weird, last time when Jagex lift the ban hammer and ban MANY of the member, they say they wont be lenient and give chance even though they are member. and they say that free ads give them around the same as membership, while they giving member more content just because they pay. i been through RS for 10 years now, from cpu speed as low as 133mhz and 266mhz, and so on until dual and even quad core. i know that even a simple ads can take toll out of the low end pc.

about the Advert blocking, i see no reason why we cant hide it. we not actually block it, it is still been download, load and displaying, just that it is behind the game. they achieved the purpose of advert where advert had done its work of fund the free game, it is just down to last step of displaying it to ppl. many monitor now is wide screen, and its width is usually short too. we could use all the spaces available. Ja(gex) stand for gaming experience, while they keep trying to keep the game available to all ppl with with low end pc, even netbook. but the advert is sometime just too much for the pc to handle. even though free player not paying but the fact is that, the money gain from advert is much more than membership money, [hide=OffTopic]therefore member dont always detested free player, free player also deserve to have content since RS cant exist without both of it[/hide]

i think i remember them saying that they will want to add an confirmation message while it is a boss room.

hm... thats weird, i think i saw somewhere write about there is no longer can avoid pvp in single combat way through aggressive mobs. player always can intercept another player that being attacked by mobs.

well say, it is hard to earn money already.

ops, my bad. maybe mixed up with you saying training other skills in dungeon. ya, small is really fast. but the cash might not be as much as in a team. but !@#$% if your team see you training crafting, HAHAHA. i have almost 95k of silver ore waiting at my bank. it is really fast crafting exp. that time i buy at 139ea, regret not setting it lower, overnight then all completed planning to continue raise my smithing too, as almost all of my smithing and most of my crafting lvl come from it. ps. i smelted over 80k of silver ore and half of it into symbol to get my current smithing and crafting lvl now. other half i stop making is that there is a times where price different too much. maybe other who interested can try to buying ore or bar at around 129ea or even lower, and wait about 1 day and see. symbol is selling quite ok at around 149ea, just last week i sell around 10k at 149ea, gone within 1 hour

it is countable, of course. considering the price in between the tier are way... off, so only Protoleather is worth doing. Protoleather requires 1 hide Vambraces 13.1/1=13.1 requires 1 hide Boots 14.8/1=14.8 requires 2 hides Coif 33/2=16.5 requires 3 hides Chaps 54.6/3=18.2 requires 5 hides Body 99.5/5=19.9 so, just craft the highest hides that required and you are good to go. not sure how to format this, since tab and space are ignored.

I have never heard this. However it is true that people once bound arrows to alch them so they would have more start up cash. Jagex then made them unalchable and increased the gold the monsters dropped to compensate. As a side note, you shouldn't be picking up coins while dungeoneering anyways. After toolbox and startup ess, you have no need for coins. not sure though. but if can, dont bind armor unless it is really neccessary. duh, why not? it would be stupid to not pick up coins, it is stackable, it can be used to buy things. buying things like rune ess to craft runes for alch, gstone tele, and most importantly food to keep you alive."staying alive, staying alive, uh.. uh.. uh.. uh.. staying alive......", sorry just wake up in a good mood. there is an old talk saying that "coins is not everything, but without coins everything are cannot be done" off topic: since when edit in forum is changed?

iirc it is solo c2 oh boy, oh boy, Livid Farm reward are so good, tempting and maybe overpowered even for p2p.