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I'd be up for it, but I have yet to do priest in peirl or anything like that.. For now I just want to have full rune and a dragon long :(

I wish I could find as old friend I knew. Alex 76, or 420 life ty. I have her myspace, but lost her email :-(

I have like 5m newscape money and a dozen sets of rune and a few thousand water/earth/fire talismans.. Is that worth anything?

That's so helpful because it isn't 07scape specific. Thanks.

There is one on Runescape wiki. If you know where it is, could be a good chap and link me to it?

Has anyone made a spreadsheet or a list of what quests to do in which order for the most xp?

Someone did money maddness already?!

Needs to wait 24h tho ... It is 30 minmutes, not 24hr

Friends chat came first. -sigh- new comers

Windows 7 looks shitte at that res! I might just bring out my old laptop for hardcore nostalga.

Get used to it. That's 07 rs. Some of us played that for years before bigger became an option. It's blatantly obvious jagex [bleep]ed up with this one. I'm just curious to see what if any damage control they do. You misunderstand me. Bigger as in enlarging the java applet window, as in zooming in. Not as in now it is now. Because how it is now does not make things like text bigger. I understood. It doesn't get bigger. Which is why that's how we played for years. One of the "perks" of going back in time. Again, no. It is possible by setting the system resolution lower. That is what I'm talking about, and I need a way to do this without changing my 23 inch monitor to a 4:3 aspect ratio. You don't understand, so stop trying to help.

Get used to it. That's 07 rs. Some of us played that for years before bigger became an option. It's blatantly obvious jagex [bleep]ed up with this one. I'm just curious to see what if any damage control they do. You misunderstand me. Bigger as in enlarging the java applet window, as in zooming in. Not as in now it is now. Because how it is now does not make things like text bigger.

Does ANYONE know how I can make the screen bigger? I tried to use virtualbox and scale mode, but it doesn't work with java. I can't see anything. I'm too old. Plus my monitor is large. And my eyesight is poor.

My plan -do some quests -get a set of addy armor and a rune weapon -get 40 some magic and do lost city -fun -fun -fun -fun -KILL THAT MOTHER ****ING JAD.. because I never killed him before they did the change to make him look like white noise.

So.. about autocasting on staves.. They can all autocast. Only the slayer staff can autocast crumble undead and magic dart, and only the ancient staff can autocast ancients. IIRC everything else can cast any standard spell. Were there lunars in 07?

Oh, Facebook. Wasn't this picture posted on TIF when someone asked for a close up of him? Pretty sure the person with the d2h was shopped in..

Okay I admit I wasn't completely clear with what I was talking about. There is a developing cost for new content, right? Because players value content differently, and some content will have more of an affect on the players than other content, it is possible to calculate how valuable different content updates are. There is definitely content in RS that is rarely used, and so the costs of developing that content did not bring back worthy gains. Just looking at the main RS page, I doubt the sinkholes content is going to spark huge interest in retired runescape players, it's not going to suddenly bring in a lot of new players. This 07scape has created a lot of talk, and a lot of talk from retired players who express interest in returning, so the developing costs for 07scape is likely to be a lot more valuable than just your average RS update. Yes, there is a cost for developing features. I'd conjecture that it's harder to gauge the value of an update until it's been around for a bit, although there were definitely some projects that bombed out (Rat Catchers, for instance). To your next point, talk is cheap. Membership will be the true test - the people that talk about wanting this will have to put their money where their mouth is. I'll admit that it's a bit low, but here's why - I'm using a similar thought process to when RSC became a snow globe. The community was fiercely divided on whether or not RS2 represented a good direction for the same, so a fervent faithful delegation of about 12,000 players hung back on the old servers. That number plummeted during what is known as "the Renaissance of RuneScape", when Members' received a smattering of awesome, revolutionary updates (special attacks, clues, more quests than you could shake a stick at). RSC, by comparison, was static - never going to be revised with the latest bot detection, never going to get anything nearly as awesome as what RS2 had, and that's what everyone had to live with. The number really got low before RSC's doors were opened once again, but this time to an even smaller crowd of enthusiasts, ultimately put off by the tedium and dullness of Classic. I find that point interesting since it was the fervent faithful so many years back that said very similar things to today - that this is what the community wanted, that it'd be more popular, that it'd be better than the other way, etc. Dat history lesson. :/ I can think of a few things for those people to develop. This would keep a small team busy for at least 2 months. "Many" years if you want to tack on a good bot detection framework. Java 6 to Java 7 migration - Hell, that code could run on Java 5. They reached their technical limitations with it before it went EOL, luckily. If you're not going to migrate to Java 7, make sure your code works with it. Not many people will use Java 6 anymore, thanks to the Swiss cheese that is its security. Updating the model objects - This means database work, too. A character in RS proper isn't the same as a character in '07Scape. Adding/Ensuring compatibility between chat systems - Database and chat system work, making sure that the chat server can support both games and identify a player from a particular game. May also have to take into account that any player can have 200 friends in their friends list. Doesn't mention Clan/Friend Chat, since that wasn't a feature in '07. Stress test - body-slam your database and see how well it does. (Potentially) Bot framework groundwork - If this gets serious traction they'll need to do a lot of work to do this. If they don't want to hear a lot of players piss and moan about bots then they'll need to do a lot of work to do this. Then again, their track record with this sort of thing has sucked horribly - it's been 8 years since they announced they had systems in place, and every one of them failed miserably. That'll eat up some dev time for sure! Quit thinking about just generic things like maintenance and personnel. There's a lot of hidden costs to this, too. Oh, I nearly forgot - there was this one time in which they blew "tens of millions of pounds" on some project - some Sci Fi game - that didn't pan out. Before that, there was Funorb. After that, there was 8 Realms. They couldn't brush those major losses off, and the effects of that are ever present. Jagex isn't infallible, and they don't have tens of millions to just throw away. They had damn well better know the cost of what they're getting into before they get in it. And it's my very strong opinion that the community should realize the cost of what Jagex is getting into before they think it's "cheap" or "not a big deal if it fails". Every failure will suck for the company. Java... Yes, oh god yes. What do you mean by model objects? Chat backwards compatibility is going to be a must have, and as it was done for RSC I can't see why it wouldn't be done for rs07. Friend/clanchat was in RS07 Botes.. yes. I think this is a given as well Or any other of the music :)

Each to his own I suppose. I bet my opinion would change once I start playing, though.

Except none of those things were in RuneScape in 2007, those are current benefits. People wanted legacy servers and they're getting them, with all the good and bad that entails. I don't see any reason to update them at all, with the exception of anti-bot measures (yes, I finally agree the 07 servers need it). You haven't read anything that I said, did you? Usability features only do good for the game. If you're 100% for an old runescape, why don't you also resubscribe for dialup or DSL so you can experience the old skool loading speeds of everything as well? Why not dig out your old windows 98 computer and play the game on that*? Or go to the junk yard, get a 13 inch 1024x768 CRT monitor and play the game on that? You need everything to be old school right? No? Because they are different? No, they're the same bloody thing. *on that note, I have a Pentium 3 PC that I might just use to play on.. for nostalgia purposes. Plus a fairly new slightly used laptop running windows 98 with 129mb of ram.. :P No, I read what you wrote. I just disagree. I think that if everyone is so jazzed to play a 6 year old version of the game, then that's what they should play. And for the record, I'm currently playing on a laptop from 2006. How's that for old school? :P Not old enough! I have this bad boy sitting next to me running 98/xp as a steam chat bot. Mostly xp, though. I don't have a wireless card that works with 98. Will be using it for the oldscape Remove the percentage for all I care; so long as the toggle is there, that is what matters. That's what people will complain about. Do you want the quickpray globe with that too? They'll realize that the usability it adds outweighs any of their nostalgia-induced anger. No, I don't want the prayer, hp, or any other globes that are there. Part of the core mechanic of combat was to look at your HP icon as well as your prayer icon and switching between your inventory and weapon screen for the special. Yes, it adds usability but it changes how the game works

I'm complaining about you complaining. Stop it. It is annoying I'm not talking about the status globes; I specifically mentioned the RUN toggle. Why? Because usability. Clicking a button is easier and more convent and faster to do than to click the options button and press the big run button. Remove the percentage for all I care; so long as the toggle is there, that is what matters.

Except none of those things were in RuneScape in 2007, those are current benefits. People wanted legacy servers and they're getting them, with all the good and bad that entails. I don't see any reason to update them at all, with the exception of anti-bot measures (yes, I finally agree the 07 servers need it). You haven't read anything that I said, did you? Usability features only do good for the game. If you're 100% for an old runescape, why don't you also resubscribe for dialup or DSL so you can experience the old skool loading speeds of everything as well? Why not dig out your old windows 98 computer and play the game on that*? Or go to the junk yard, get a 13 inch 1024x768 CRT monitor and play the game on that? You need everything to be old school right? No? Because they are different? No, they're the same bloody thing. *on that note, I have a Pentium 3 PC that I might just use to play on.. for nostalgia purposes. Plus a fairly new slightly used laptop running windows 98 with 129mb of ram.. :P

I'm for updates so long as they don't change gameplay. Anti-bot updates, yes Things like pathfinding, adding the run button near the minimap, the option to mute the music in the login screen, and to right click PMs to reply, no randoms in combat.. Those wouldn't effect the game very much, if at all, but would add leaps and bounds when it comes to usability. I'm sure there are a few other things that have slipped my mind, but imho they don't effect how the game works, looks, and feels enough to be considered "bad" or too new. Usability is a HUGE thing. If a site or a game is not easy to use, people will eventually begin to ignore it. For example, for those that want a virgin, old runescape with bad usability compared to now.. tell me, would you rather use this Or this Or this Or even this? Older isn't always better.

I don't recall. I think f2p had somewhere of around 1 page/screen/50 some items, and members had between 175 and 200?

Yes. Yes, I do like the graphics from 07. Not just 07, anything from before the "high detail" update. I liked it. It was simplistic, and it complimented the rest of the game well. Now, I feel everything looks like plastic. Likewise, I like the old sound effects and music.So much that I even went out of my way to convert every single midi from the game before they changed to a non-midi format to midi-sounding mp3s. http://forum.tip.it/topic/316331-old-old-midi-music-as-mp3/ Why? Because I like how the old music sounded, more than how I like the new music's sound. (for the most part the midi-mp3s will sound just like they would if you had a generic windows sound card) Then what would be the point? What would be the point in releasing a game in which you log in, turn on your bot, go to work, and come back with a bank full of logs? They're bringing back the game. Not the botting that came with it. Sure dozens of bald men in green clothes chopping yews was in the 07 version of the game. It was a necessary evil. Can you really say you LIKED bots? I can't. Everyone knew there were bots. They knew they were bad, and they knew that sometime they had to go. For me, I'm looking forward to the fun times of killing rats with my friends and playing on the weekends the game I played during highschool. I'm not looking forward to any bloody bots, or any people who are like EFFICIENCY! I want to play a game that is fun. Period.; I don't find the new game to be fun. I find it to be a corny evolution of something I liked.

I've voted yes. I can't wait. though I would fancy some of those pathfinding chances and usability changes that have been added. Leave the core gameplay the same.