ultrablue

As stupid as alot of us see this rule, it is still one of Runescapes rules... Rules that all of us agreed to when we made our accounts (whether we like them or not), aru Yeah i mean, if jagex tells you to jump out of the window being a part of their awesome rule, im sure you're gonna do it. Rules are rules, right? These halfwits these days... Jesus

Exactly, you tell them one thing how it really was back in the days, and they contradict you and say no it wasnt, you played rsc, you're a criminal for drop trading so gtfo. <3

^ clueless fanboy is clueless. I rest my case.

My last post on this one... I realised it takes an oldschool person who had been around 01-03 to understand how this game gone down the drain, because rs2 people (04-08) are playing a whole different game, thus don't see or understand the issues. They don't understand for example that back in the days, "breaking the rules" = drop trading was normal. Even past RS2 it was normal, as people made pures, alts, skillers = and those need money for gear/skilling equipment/runes (whatever you wish) and you'd be an idiot to pick up flax or whatever to get the cash for it. Instead it took 1 minute to swap the needed amount of your OWN money. Yet i am amazed in several cases here of pure stupidity, like when people tell me "OMG DROP TRADER BAN HIM BAN HIM", Its not only laughable to me, but rather sad how narrow minded people can be to not understand that morally there is nothing wrong with swapping your items to another toon. Jagex set up rules to this game yes. Some rules are good some are bad. Some people thought "well that botting rule is stupid, are we really supposed to click on that rock 100000 times to get xx level", so they botted. Yes that's wrong and they should be banned. Automating the gameplay is a bannable offence everywhere. Some people thought "well i'll just auto catch - everyone else do so right", so they autoed. And they got banned, yes its wrong as you got an advantage over an opponent in PvP. Some people thought "well lets make some money by duping pink party hats", so they duped and got the ban hammer. Entirely correct. Duping ruins the economy = ruining the game... But anyone, tell me what is wrong with drop trading? Just one single argument? (I could think of one, and that is if you would get "hacked" the hacker would get your items, although getting "hacked" is entirely your own fault, so it has nothing to do with the issue, thus not even a valid argument against drop trades). So people didn't get banned for this, although it is easy to track. I also believe the reason why most people here dislike RSC and RSC players, they instantly think of botters, dupers, sharers, auto/macroers and they think of the consequences of those that happen to affect them in in rs2, random events for one. But let me riddle you something, i already said it is not the players fault in the end. It is Jagex's fault, for introducing a faulty system based on a outdated and crap engine with lots of security holes. Not only this, but the game was based for a very young audience and those things combined resulted in a recipe of disaster. Yet during those 3 years RSC lasted they never managed to fix the problems created by themselves. All they did was to introduce the ridiculous "sleeping bags", if you don't know what that is i can tell you in short. After 15k exp ~ roughly, you were forced into this sleeping bag to further get experience in any skill. Then you had to select a random combination of numbers and letters written on it, and if you got it right you were able to get experience again. Example:http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4561/kevilsdeadid3.jpg I didn't recieve any exp for the kill because i was 'too tired' (sleeping bag effect). So 'sleeping bags' didn't fix anything, and Jagex never went into the core of the problem, instead they added various "fixes" to them that only made the gameplay worse. If there is any oldschools around here hanging, don't you remember how it was on the old tip it forums back in the rsc days? The graveyard forums were several times bigger than any other section, newest kills were posted regularly, the discussions arised daily who X logged and who backstabbed. Those were 20 pages discussions. PKing, that what made Runescape, not cooking or firemaking. Good bye

If you don't realize that Jagex ruined what made RS popular then you are a fan boy. ... I agree with what the OP stated pretty much... Bots were bad but I can't believe anybody would want the current RS over the old RS if given the choice. The "pkers", not all of them I mean the ones like Ultrablue, will always complain about everything Jagex does. The only difference is that the less desirable people are quitting in droves now, because of reasons like not being able to drop trade, lure, and scam, hidden behind a thin veil of the wilderness pking. Not all wilderness pkers have this motive, but there were certainly a lot of people protesting things like when Jagex clarified that luring was a scam. The pkers like me? First, What the hell do YOU know about me? You frankly don't know a s*it, and yet you imply that apparently my fun on RSC ment abusing the system? Nice there, coming up with stuff out of your arse. I never needed to scam, lure or hide in the wilderness. I made several hundred 2hs by PKing when those were 500k each, i had over 100 rune sets even though i couldn't even wear them due to being a black pure. The real PK back then was about stats, catching, and honor. You didn't teleport like a p*ssy, you either lived, ran to fight another day, or died. But that my friend, you don't have any clue about, and it seems like you don't even have any clue about RSC in general. A clueless kid is clueless, and he's gonna believe what that Billy across the street told him, no matter what, thus im not gonna reply to you any longer.

[Rule #8: Multiple Logging In] It's in the rules and in the Terms of Service. Doesn't matter HOW you feel about the rule, it's not permitted by their ToS. Violation of contract, plain and simple. Oh, by the by, it doesn't matter how long any of us have been around. The rule regarding this hasn't changed. I hope you enjoy your time over at WoW, because I sure as hell don't want to see you back. Yet they don't ban for it, because it's re*arded?

I think some people here misunderstood me on few points and i want to clearify before i leave this thread. 1) I never said it was a bad thing gold farmers are gone and RWT is gone. It IS a good thing, HOWEVER the cost of it got way too high and out of hand. If Blizzard implemented changes like these to WoW, the game would be screwed up big time, like RS is now. 2) Again, how the HELL can it possibly be wrong to trade my hard earned items to another character of mine. If noone else except the owner will use the character and the items what harm can it do? And again, a simple solution to the 'trading problem' could've been a simple account management system by Jagex. One owner, and limited number of character slots. All transactions can be done within your characters, yet the 3000 gold limit applies to other people. Even friends. THAT SIMPLE. 3) I don't even need to specify for you why i used a lv3 alt as a banker, but it was only for security reasons. 4) How the HELL was i a contributor to ANY of the problems? I didnt sell my char, nor items, i didnt bot or macro, i didn't dupe or hack the client. I can tell none of you are any oldschool players, just RS2 products with no clue and eat everything that gets throwen at you. Pathetic.

1) Oh right.. Wait... 2) No sh*t? 3) Yeah i can understand that you prefer 150k/hour exp and easy mode compared to rsc's 20k exp/hour in the very most skills. *that's like yay i can be lv100 too mommy*

Rofl. I know what is/was 'legal' or not. And that droptrading was bannable was known to me before you even knew about this game (not that i know of anyone who has gotten the ban hammer for it during the 7 years). Unfortunately its the players who had to suffer because of Jagex's stupidity. Basically people were allowed to have several toons but not interract with them. If you tell that to any serious MMO developer today, they would laugh their as*es off. Because by simple logic its non-sence, how such fundamental feature of any MMO, was actually a bannable offence in another. After a while Jagex didn't care about 'char-interracting' anymore, wether they were busy as hell with dupers, botters etc, or maybe Jagex realised their mistake - how pathetic the rule really was but couldnt be arsed to remove it (perhaps in fear of losing their credibility). Nonetheless, everyone did it. And personally i cannot see what's wrong with parsing your OWN stuff that you've earned amongst your very own characters. If you gonna complain about EBAY traders and the gold farmers who you think sunk this game like Titanic, then think again. It wasn't the players fault. It's the developers fault -> JAGEX. They were able to create a decent catchy game, but they couldn't fix the loopholes created by themselves so the game collapsed. And the players got to suffer for it because of the developers incompetency. In 2004 the pressure was too high. 20% of the players were running around in shemale-like outfits. Then you knew something was seriously wrong. So it came, RS2. But RS2 on its own created more problems. So they fix some and get new rightaway. Problem now was, the game changed dramatically. Everyone stayed on rsc as long as they could (2 week transfer time i believe), and in the end, many players quit because the Player Killing (what made RS so good) became bullsh*t. So some chose to stay in rsc, some went on with rs2 for a while and then quit, but many did the right decision at that time. They simply began to sell their characters. Causing a massive wave of RWT. And it just began rolling like a snowball, and again, again players had to suffer. For the sh*t JAGEX came up with. And now people like you 'dragoonson', would say "hey its raining" if jagex sh*t on you. Seriously. Fanboys like you are so easy pleased its beyond me. And who knows, i *might* get banned but i wonder who would benefit most from that. Me who's not even playing the game, or you - the happy customer that is being sh*t on, and you don't even notice.

So i came back from my long retirement and wanted to check things out. First thing i see, new page, new looks new game basically. RS HD. Well ok fine i guess, i can run it in low detail to keep the 'oldschool' touch to it (even if it's been gone since the release of RS2), moving on from there. No pking? No staking? No trading? Mindblowing changes, unacceptable changes!. PKing MADE RS. Even if RS2 killed it with a big bunch, and now its gone completely. No words there. Staking gone? The main reason since RS2 to level up a pure character - GONE. Unbelievable. No trading? Another core feature of this game gone. So i went to check my bank alt if he's alive. He was. I withdrew my valuables, some small rares and a party hat. Dropping over to my main. And guess what? Nothing. Items won't pop up. They even removed that. It's just completely insane, how the game developers can totally **** up their game over the course of 1~ year? Ontop of this they have extended the max combat to 138. Yesterday i saw a level 125 i believe without even a single 99. Mindblowing. I remember the days you had to be maxed out to become lv123... So not only this game has been dumbed down to such an extent it's not enjoyable, but also the levels and stats don't mean a **** anymore. Where is this 'holy-****' feeling from others when you 3 hitted people back in rsc, 30 30 dead? Instead anything under 70 while maxing is "omfg u noob". Instead all i see from people is something like this: "Emote plz", "omfg emote!!44" "U NOOB SHWO EMTOE I *** UR MOM". All this just makes me sick. And only one thing to add. Back to World of Warcraft.

You cannot get banned on Runescape for using linux, because linux is allowed according to jagex. And btw... Just think if they banned all linux users... Even if there is 1% players on linux.. its still about at least 10k people? cmon.

What you think about PC, hohto? :> P.S and what happened to hohto jr? ^^

stake/pk.

Rares will rise in price nonetheless, but sooner or later they will collaps. It's math.

The prices on top 3rd age have risen so much just because of merchanters buying it from those who pee'd in their pants of joy after getting the item. Now those merchs are 'controlling' the prices, and even if the desperate buyer manages to get a 10% "discount" on the item, (which looks good for the buyer) the pure profit is still high for the merch who spent a couple of days on the process. And i bet those merchs are those very 'neutral' guys making threads on forums about how rare it is to get a 3rd age item :) Just to get their prices up. Merely it might be true, the chances are very slim, but think again. Who would that rant about 3rd rarity benefit most? You as the one doing clues 24/7? or the merch who earns millions by manipulating the prices? Nothing against you merchants, but play fair :)