Nice shading Quer! Thanks for the advice, but usually if I try to make the shading more obvious I make it too obvious. :oops: I guess I'll try to add more colours so it isn't 3-toned, and maybe I'll try some shading like yours sometime (realistic style). Any tips on shading though? Secondly, if you have time, could you ever give me some tips on doing the lineart? Thanks in advance, Ausseh.