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I am sorry i don't know if this is the right place, but is tip.it the fansite that had the database of pass stolen (hope not ;) )

yeah,super proposal blackrazor ..... and screw you too superpiff :P .. kidding

I say that because essentially, money making is a bunch of mindless clicks.. like getting to lvl 85 mining is 85k iron ores (from level 60 i believe?) .. thats 85k useless, mindless clicks, just to mine the ore.. assuming the best case scenario, that you've got someone to trade with all the time.. thats 85*2= 170k more clicks.. so 255k clicks so far.. if you bank them or drop trade..omg And for those who think everyone doesn't need that kind of money, you'r wrong.. i am 81 wc.. but i can barely sustain training magic.. i am 500 chaos from lvl 76 magic, and i am about 60k chaos away from lvl 85 magic..(using Chaos is the best combination of time and money., unless u high alch steel plates, but their prices have gone up so its more expensive now..) so 60k chaos, 180k airs.. thats 60*100K for chaos at shops, and 180k*20 (from players) ..a bit right? lol Ofcourse there are people who are rich..but how many clicks ..how much time have they spent?

Wrong. Viewing banners on high volume sites generates cash. Lots of it. Period. Do your homework on this, before spouting such rubbish. Even after people have clearly informed you on this. If you don't believe, then go research it yourself before spouting nonsense. Wow. Are you just thick, or do you not even bother to read what others write? Businesses do what benefits them; they are not charities. If it benefitted Jagex to drop ad sponsored players, then they would be dropped. Notice how RSC is now members only, since its numbers declined? RS3D would be the same if it benefitted Jagex to do so. But it does benefit Jagex to keep ad sponsored on RS3D, which is why it's still here. And if Jagex benefits from us ad sponsored players, then they should support us minimally, with at least a balanced (albeit lesser) product. And you members should be careful what you wish for. With ad sponsored gone, you will either: 1) Get less updates. 2) Pay more sub fees. 3) Get banner ads on your servers, to help earn the revenue that we ad sponsored players currently do for you. ==== If you need an education in banner pricing, start with http://www.metacrawler.com and search for: banner ad pricing The best information site I found so far is: http://www.wilsonweb.com/cat/cat.cfm?pa ... _AdPricing Basically, it costs the sponsor about $5 per 1000 ads served. Note that served means displayed, not clicked. There are click-though models too, but they are typically more expensive. The RS online population varies from 140k to 30K, with an average of 85K at any time. Of those 85K, about 55K are on ad sponsored servers. So, we have $5 x 55 = $275.00 banner revenue per minute, for all of RS servers. Doesn't sound like a lot, does it? Keep in mind that it accrues minute by minute, 24/7. So multiply 275 x 60 minutes/hour x 24 hours/day x 30 days/month = 11.88 million dollars! per month from banners. Not exactly small pototoes. Jagex also has around 1 million paying subscribers x $5 per month = 5 million dollars per month from subscriptions. Does that mean that Jagex actually earns more from the ad sponsored players?? Well, not really. You see, the above represents gross revenue, before bandwidth costs. The 11.88 million ad-sponsored gross incurred about 55/85, or about 65% of the bandwidth costs. The 5 million subscription gross incurred about 30/85, or about 35% of the bandwidth costs. So the net profits are about the same for both. Still, that is really something for you all to think about. That was well said man, great research..... i did point out that google is among the richest company, and they dont ask a penny for their services, but i guess people are either too immature or too dumb to understand that a big subscriber base is worth the costs. That is why most IM messangers are free. Thats also why some TV channels and almost all radio stations are free... the best things in life are free..amen So yeah, Jagex ought to get some stuff for f2pers, it would work to their advantage.. ofcourse, p2pers would always have more. Personally, i'd like a higher level monster in f2p with low def and good drops..maybe we'd get something this halloween

Um i am f2p, and there is one bad assumption here that f2p doesn't generate revenue.. ever noticed the ads on top? The more the people playing the game, the more the money they get, and i daresay that the advertisement revenue is a lot, most people who play the game are little kids, with no clue about ad-blockers.. jagex generates cash out of f2pers the same way as google makes cash from free search engines, free email(And google is soooooo bustling with cash!!) SO yeah, f2p should get more stuff. Though ofcourse, p2p would always have more. And if you were a jagex mod saying f2pers shouldn't get updates, trying to get 12 year olds to be p2p.. shame on your perverse marketing

i don't know if this is the right place to say this, but i happened to see the fight between Ds and Di ( and i had no clue what people meant when they were screaming Ds and Di lol) but i've never seen so many lvl 100s.. it was crazy, and the fun part was, everyone was killing everyone...they didn't go by capes, and there were so many people being nooby.. like using iron kites and steel longs that hill giants dropped lol.