darkpaladin9

If you really want to go into it, in english translation, the meaning of I.E. depends on where you are at. For example, in my area, it is hardly ever used to mean in effect, it either is used as in example, or its refering to internet browser that is frowned upon by most that I know.

Sorry Flumm, but I do have to contradict you on this one part. I.E. does usually stand for In Example. But the rest of the arguements presented in this post are beyond any reasoning. ST will die within the next two months if we do not go to war? I would love to see that. We have been alive since August. No, that is not a long time, but still, we have not warred yet. How does that affect our ability to survive as a clan? Whether or not we have a war we will continue on our way, although judging by how everything is set up, we are having this war. Your third point: "I said good luck and that is the end of the matter." If you are going to insult someone, why should they be denied the right to defend themselves just because you claim the arguement is over. If you really wanted the thing to die, you would have never started insulting anyone to begin with. Points four and five I don't see any reason to discuss, and your final threat is also irrelevant. However, take your own advice learn grammar before you try to correct someone else. Sorry for going horribly off topic, but now back to the matter at hand. Best of luck in the war BK, i can't wait to see you in battle.[/b]

From what i've seen in all of your wars, you've all had excellent organization :P Having a well organized clan/war strategy helps a lot aswell :P But i'm sure we can both agree that 90% of the time 90 will be 60 in rs2 unless the lvls are just that far apart.

Yeah if I recall correctly the last time we saw you was when we had that p2p miniwar and Devils beat the living **** out of ZF. Also, if you look at list ratings, Devils are almost unanimously ranked in the top 10. Also, you got 70 peopel to your war...that is absolutely pathetic, and you claim to be the 3rd or 4th best clan? I used to like ZF...I thought that the idiots were only a couple and the majority was good, but after this topic it is safe to say that you are almost all jerks. No offense slashir but with a turnout of 70 I don't think it's even safe to say YOUR clan is in the top 10 and yeah you have about 2 years on my clan ty. Harsh, and yea you showing up with 70 people is kinda pathetic. We came home with at least 50+ people still alive. Ok... Now i'm not trying to be rude when i say this. If zf Showing up wth 70-80 of thier 150 members (approximately 55% of their clan) then gladz shows up with 110-120 members (55%-60%) of thier clan, than doesn't it make it pathetic that you could only pull the same percent from your clan as us. ALthough we had less numbers we also have less total members. In all reality each clan had around 55% of thier clan there so I think thats enough for us to both be happy about it. Once again please don't take that as an insult, I am not trying to insult Gladz, or anyone else, although it will probably be considered one.

Congratulations on your victory Gladz. You did well, and outnumbered us immensely(sp?). Congratulations to ZF for showing up, and with the numbers you had. I apologize for not being there. I was outside for an 8 hour band practice in which a large portion of my body was sun burned. Ok, i stopped reading after about page 10, so if this has already been said i'm sorry 1st... The Quality > Quantity thing wasn't meant as an insult to Gladz. We aren't saying you aren't a Quality Clan. What they meant is when comparing the Average Combat/Hp lvl of Zeonic Force with Gladiatorz, Zf has a slighty higher average combat and hp, although i believe our requirements are actually slightly higher than yours which would cause us to have higher average levels. I believe it was one of the gladz leaders who said this(or maybe a member i don't remember) "We don't kick those who don't meet req when we raise them" Zf doens't do that either :P I wish Zf would stop dogging gladz about having lower leveled members though. Although I believe we had the higher level averages at the war we still lost. Because we were greatly outnumbered. So obviously their strategy worked better(no i'm not saying you mass recruited or anything). Next... King koltzan 80/150 = Approximately 55% 110/200 = Approximately 55% So each clan had about 55% show up going by the numbers. While gladz had 40-50 more there, we were about the same in percentages(yes gladz has more active members, but as a clan is just as active as zf). <-- The point i'm trying to prove. Next... Zf members please stop flaming, and non zf members please don't consider 3/150(2% or so) of zf the entire clan... From the pages i read i only saw 3 of the members flaming, show me ONE clan(a large sized one, not a 10-50 member clan) that doesnt have any big mouths in it, then i will stop being upset about you saying 2% of zf is the entire clan. Next... Gladz has like 100k more post then zf... They are like a year older(no i don't know how many times gladz switched forums). Zf has switched forums 7-15 times i believe(don't remember exact amount) each of which had anywhere from 30-50k post(except the few that were temporary forums during down time, those having 100-5,000 post). Next... Don't remember who it was, but someone said something along the lines of "If you are all going ot be such sore losers we shouldn't war you again." Now that isn't word for word what he/she said, but its rather close. I would like you to show me a single clan that would have 100% of its members accept defeat without saying anything. I highly doubt you can, but thats beside the point. Every clan has people like that. Finally... Good job to gladz for the victory, and ZF for the turnout. -Darkpaladin9, High Council of Zeonicforce P.S. I need a new sig :P