thats why there is the protect item prayer :thumbsup: Which makes it a problem for the real pkers who have to put up with 1-iteming losers who think their d claws will destroy everything and thus irk the pkers to no end with specs. If I'm not mistaken, a lot of pk items protect over the d claws making it a risky finishing wep for real pkers. If you die its a 30m loss. yea thats true though, as a pure its easy to ko low lvl players while you wear only d claws, str ammy and you have 99 str, 60 att and enaugh prayer to protect ur claws. really cheap though Btw i love disturbed :thumbsup: especially down with the sickness