This is how far I got on my test run - notice that I took NO food, NO prayer pots, just range gear (crystal bow on 4\10) and full guthan. The spot I am standing is great for trapping the level 180's. As you can see I reached the first level 360 without using any kind of supplies at all (You can tell that's the last 180 by the colour of his skin.) Note; I didn't even have to pray once. I'm geared up to try defeat Jad later on tonight, that way I can be sure none of my family will kick me off the computer half way through. :roll: Thanks for the video on page 7 of this topic, seeing the 702 stances in action has made me 10 times more prepared !