Err.. is that suppose to be better? =/ And what I said was useful to a degree if you'd stop worrying about your comebacks and just listen. It's too simple, the black and white + half color doesn't work. The border isn't good, try making it a full border, no depth, no clear light source, and you used the same C4D twice. Lucky you got that much from me, I'm just bored.. <_< I did listen to you. But I thought your first post you did was typically uselss to me, i wasn't worrying about my comebacks. I rarely insult people. But your first post really annoyed me. But i maybe no expert, I may not spend 2 hours on my sigs. But i make them to look nice. Simple = Maybe Plain = Not at all I make my sigs, not to have renders. But to have a theme to it. Renders, I don't really do. I either use a picture, or none. That is my way of sig making.