Sorry

Ok winner gets 1M? :P

Oh lol I see, it should be 98 HP ofcourse :P Thanks and I train in world 16 a friend gave me a tip that it is used for runecrafting so other spots are empty. And most of the time they are!

Yay 94 defence! 70k xp to 98 HP and...120 combat!!!

acrotis: Thanks for the info, Ill write it down. piman: You dont even have to be that poor, you can buy 1100 kebab per hour, they heal 11 HP compared to the 12 HP of lobs, thats 92%, lobs cost 220 each, so 92%*220*1100=222k, if your income is higher you might as well buy lobs. Thanks for other compliments :D

:D About the super hot sauce, I never heard of this, could some member give me information about it? I cant access it :(

Wow amazing mining and smithing, 10/10 :thumbsup:

It's info how to eat kebabs, that you don't have to eat when you have high HP for example it's more obvious but this is not so I wanted to point it out... and what is a guide without application :wink:

Thanks :D And for runemining I think swordfish is best, because you almost never have to eat you can afford to take the best of the best. I could add a wilderness section to my guide, but due to its unreliable nature it is not good food for wilderness. However, I can't deny that I use kebabs sometime :P

Wow alot of replies overnight :D Ill do my best to keep up with it. Maybe I should emphasise this more, but you should always eat when you fall below 30HP, because the place I assume you will be using kebabs for, the stronghold of security, you will propably go AFK for most of the times, so keeping your HP above 30 is important. I should emphasise on that in my guide. Anyway, taking normal food is not useful. Ill add that! :D You must add +3 to your strenght when training on strenght style (aggresive) Runehq is wrong, the correlation between HP level and kebab healing is not right-proportional (rechtevenredig :? ) I don't know how much kebabs heal below 85 HP, I can only make a rough estimate. I would like if people below 85 HP would test the amount of healing a normal, good and amazing kebabs then I could include that in my guide :D At any HP level, a very bad kebab hurts you for 4 HP and damages your melee stats for -3,Im not 100% sure, but almost certain that a kebab can kill you if your HP is to low, I could eat some kebab on a lvl 3 to try it out in the future but I think it will kill you. Also i've hit several 20's in the last hour at 96 str, and i even hit a 20 just now at 95 str didn't think that was possible. Training strenght adds +3 to your strenght, so that means you fall in the 98+ category which let you hit 20s. I myself, also hit my first natural 20s at 95 strenght. Training a certain melee stat gives +3 in that, also on lvl 3's, trainign controlled gives you +1 in all melee stats. It's just like in runescape 1. Anyway, Ill add this to my guide. They will! I have eaten almost 20.000 kebabs so Im absolutely sure. You need to have 85+ HP though for the highest healing. This guide is mainly for F2P, but if there is a member store that is faster, Ill happily include it in my guide, please tell me about this shop. Is it closer to bank? Can you buy multiple kebabs? Because if it is slower then buying at karim's I have no reason to include it in my guide. Thanks for all your questions, replies and comments so I can improve my guide. :D Im glad you all like this guide and Im enjoying all the positive reactions. :mrgreen:

Yea but I want to advertise my guide :P

Ehm I am not sure but my estimate: 10 HP 3 7 12 11-25 HP 4 9 15 26-40 HP 5 11 18 41-55 HP 6 13 21 56-70 HP 7 15 24 71-85 HP 8 17 27 First number for normal, second for good, third for amazing. The outcomes for bad and neutral are the same for any HP skill level. Note that this is just a estimate, I can be very far off. About the shop in pollvineach, I dont really know much about member things, but is that pollvineach store closer to bank then Karim's store? Can you buy more kebabs at a time?

Secret :wink: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=645803&highlight= :wink:

The great kebab guide Introduction Hello tip.it. When I am fighting around at my training spot, alot of people talk to me. Usually, the question which food I use comes up. When I answer the food Im using is kebab, it amazes most people because they all think kebab is "nooby" food. Last time, a lvl 80 with a santa hat comes up and when he hears about the food I'm using, he laughs at me for using such "noobish" food. Kebab is actually great food and I'm surprised so many people don't know about it so that's why I'm making this (my first) guide. Furthermore, this guide is best suitable for F2P'ers, and with high HP levels (85+) who are training combat. Kebab? Kebab is one of the many foods in runescape. Occasionaly a drunken dwarf will hand you a kebab and a beer, so you must have at least seen one, maybe you even ate it and you might got angry when it turned out to be a damaging kebab. :boohoo: Kebab isn't regarded as highly as it should be. Kebab could potentially heal a great deal of HP, but also damage HP, you'll never know unless you eat it. I have written this guide so more people can enjoy the virtues of kebab (on runescape) this guide might also turn you to kebab in real life! Why kebab? Many people use trouts and salmons, they give great fishing xp and are easy to come by, but the downside is that all of the banking is a huge waste of time, and the foods only heal 7 and 9, so you have to bank alot, this reduces your XP-rate in your combat style. For people who don't like fishing at all and don't want to train anyway, using these fish are even worse. Ofcourse you can also do it the expensive way. Lobsters cost about 220gp each and they heal 12 hitpoints, you don't need to bank much, but 220gp each bite, that hurts. Especially for a higher combat goal you need a really big pile of cash to finance it, and for most F2P'ers, money is pretty hard to come by. Then we have got a third possibility: kebab! It heals a whopping 11 and it is very cheap and easy to come by. You need absolutely no skills to get kebabs fast and for only 1gp each kebab, it doesn't even matter how high your combat goal is, it is almost free anyway! And for 11 HP average per bite, you don't have to bank much so you can get really high XP-rates in combat! How to get kebab? I'm glad you asked it! You can buy kebabs in Karim's kebab shop, it is located next to the furnace in Al Kharid, close to the Kharidian bank. The kebab shop is located in the red circle. It is close to lumbridge, you can teleport to lumbridge for free and you will be at Karim's shop very fast. Note that you need 10gp to pass the gate to Al Kharid. Unfortunately there is no market for kebab, if you type kebab in the official forums, you'll get zero hits, except for those occasional rants about how bad kebab is, written by people who have just eaten a single bad kebab. If there would be a market for kebab, kebab will be worth at least 50gp each, but very likely it would be over 100gp each! So you can't buy it yet, lucky for you, I have these tips to getting kebab fast! Getting kebab fast! Once you are there, you should buy kebabs as fast as possible, so you don't waste so much time. For most people, it is a major issue that you have to buy one at a time, but this can be done relatively fast and the shop is close to bank. It is still alot of clicking though, but it's worth it! :wink: I have made a list of tips and tricks so you can buy kebabs as fast as possible. As you can see the kebab shop is also home of a popular cooking furnace, so you won't be alone. Note that the bank is only one click away, so you'll bank the kebabs really fast! Obvious: - Always keep 27 spots empty in your inventory, one for a cash pile. - Don't put on equippables with wheight, without you should be able to run 80% of the time, 100% if you're a member with agility. - Put chat off, you have plenty of time to talk when you are combatting anyway, on your quickly bought kebabs. Less obvious: - Turn you screen to the south, often Karim is in the northern part of the store, this means when you turn your screen south, he is closer to the text bar, this means you have to move your mouse less and you can buy kebabs faster. - Tilt your screen down a little, this makes Karim a little bit larger so you won't click past him so often, don't go to low, or you'll find it harder navigating and banking and clicking Karim in the first place. - Stay away from crowded worlds, always take the empty ones, each time you click in the text bar to buy a kebab, you have to wait a fraction of a second, if you are in a crowded world, this can take a second or even more! That surely slows the buying down! And ofcourse, don't forget the cash! Even if you follow these tips & tricks, at first you won't buy the kebabs as fast, but after 100 or so, you'll get the hang of it! I have timed, and the fastest I could do is 1 run in 1:20 minutes (27 kebabs) ofcourse everyone makes mistakes, so on average you'll make a rune in 1:30 minutes. Thats about 1100 kebabs an hour, not bad eh! :D How to eat kebab? Just click on it and you eat it. Haha! No actually, because kebab is not reliable like other foods, you need to keep some things in mind to make optimal use of it. Sometimes it heals a mediocre amount of HP, but sometimes it gives you a huge amount of HP back, it can even damage you somtimes! There is a small chance a kebab will heal you for 30 HP, this is the highest. There is also a small chance a kebab will damage your stats for -3. You must make sure that you: - Don't eat kebab when your current HP is not lower then 30 points below your HP skill level. (you might waste a lot of potential HP, you could get a kebab that heals 30 HP!) - Eat kebab when your health gets to low, else a high monster hit + a damaging kebab can finish you off. Take 20 HP as a limit, take at least 30HP if you are going AFK, keep a higher HP limit the less often you are going to check in on runescape. - Don't eat kebab when your current HP is 4 or lower. A damaging kebab might knock you out, when you don't pay attention for some time at aggresive NPC's and when you check back you see your health at 4 or lower, immediately switch your protect from melee prayer and run from the NPC's, wait until your HP regenerates to 5, you might want to use prayer to speed up the process. When your health is 5 again, eat kebab. THere is a small chance you are knocked to 1 or 2 HP, in this case, wait until HP regenerates to 5 again, or run to the bank for other foods, do not try your luck! - Don't eat kebab when your strength potion improves your max hit. You might get a damaging kebab which drops your strength by 3. I assume you use strength potions for training. Without strength potions you are wasting alot of time. Strength potions, they raise your strength with 12.5% of your total level. Your level will slowly go back to your Strength skill level for 1 point/minute. Here is a list of which strength level you need for a certain max hit (assuming you use strength amulet + rune scimitar) 83+ strength: 17 88+ strength: 18 93+ strength: 19 98+ strength: 20 103+ strength: 21 108+ strength: 22 (NOT taken from the tip.it max hit calculator :P ) Note that training strength (aggresive style) gives you +3 strength, so if you are lvl 95 strength you can already hit 20s! (95+3=98 which means you're in the 98+ category!) For example if you have got 99 strength, your potion will improve your strength to 111, if you have bad luck and you get a damaging kebab, your strength drops to 108, you are missing 3 valuable levels there where you can hit 22. Instead, you must wait and start eating kebabs at 102, then your strength potion doesn't improve your max hit anymore, you can't hit 21 anymore and you can hit 20 without strength potion, from that point you can start eating kebab, your 102 might drop to 99, but that doesnt matter. If you wouldnt have got a damading kebab, you would've drank another strength potion anyway, because at that point your strength potion no longer improves your max hit. You mught get 2 damaging kebab in one row (very, very rare), lowering your strength below 99, when you would take strength potion now, it won't give you the full bonus. You could use beers to neutralise this, they're occasionaly handed out by drunken dwarves. Kebab in numbers Ofcourse this guide wouldn't be good if I hadn't got some numbers to back my guide up. As you know kebab is unreliable, it sometimes give great HP, sometimes it does bad things. That's why I tried some kebabs out to see for the results. I ate one 1000 kebabs for accurate results. (note that I have almost eaten 20.000 kebabs in total, but ofcourse I haven't recorded all them :P ) Possible results: Normal kebab, this is by far the most common outcome, this kebab heals you for 9 HP. Good kebab, altough not as common as a normal one, you'll enjoy many good kebabs. They heal 19 HP each. Neutral kebab, rarely you'll encounter a kebab with no effect. This one heals you for 0 HP. Bad kebab, also rare, this kebab has got the same effect as neutral kebab since the update. Very bad kebab, about as uncommon, this kebab gives you a temporary -3 for Attack, Strength and Defence (altough this will regenerate for 1 point per minute) It used to damage health before the update. Amazing kebab, this kebab is pretty rare as well, but it heals you for a whopping 30 HP points!!! And that's not it, it also gives a temporary +2 for Attack, Strength and Defence. Now for the numbers, I have eaten 1000 kebabs, so each 10 kebabs which turned in a certain outcome counts for 1 percent. Normal (9): 63.3% Good (19): 23.4% Neutral (0): 2.8% Bad (0): 3.2% Very bad (0): 3.4% Amazing (30): 3.9% (note that if your HP is lower then 85, the normal, good and amazing outcome will heal less HP) If you multiply the percentage with the amount of HP it heals (in the brackets) you will find out the average amount a kebab will heal. You will see the outcome is 11.333 (it used to be 11.081 before the update), so the kebab heals 11 on average! 11HP for only 1gp costs and 3 seconds of buying, isn't it amazing! :D Kebab in the wilderness? This is the newest section for my guide, I added this a bit too late, but I hope it's useful information nonetheless. Kebab is very good for it's costs when it comes for average healing. It heals 11 points and costs only 1 gp (+ some time) the main pking food, the lobster, it costs 200gp and it heals 12 (just one point more). Swordfish is much more expensive for a little extra healing points, these are not commonly used in the wilderness. Salmons/trouts could also be an option for the low budget pker, but the kebab's extra healing power makes up for it's lack of reliability. So far so good, when it comes to raw healing power vs costs, kebab is THE pking food. But we have forgotten one factor: it's lack of reliability. For example, if you are in a fight and somebody hits you high when you are already at mid HP, you eat a kebab and it damages you! Then you might be hit high after and you are brought to 0 HP, without even eating all your kebabs! But since lobsters are so expensive, it would be a waste to eat them, so I have made a list of situation where you should or shouldn't use kebabs. Hunting: This is when you and a group friends (or a small clan) go out and hunt lone pkers or smaller/lower groups with the sole purpose to hunt as much money as you can (and have a little bit of fun ofcourse :wink: ) In this situation it is important that you are not heavily packed (light armor or nothing) this so that you can chase for longer and you won't lose as much if you run into a clan, you'll also pk exclusively in multi-combat areas. When hunting you shouldn't count for much resistance, you won't be hit hard and by several people at once, and when you run into a clan you flee/log. That means you shouldn't worry so much for being killed without being able to eat all your food. Still you have got a chance to be KO'ed (killed without being able to eat all your food), you also have a chance of getting an amazing kebab (+30 HP), so the best compromise would be to eat when your HP falls below your max HP - 30 when hunting. Solo pking (deep wilderness) Solo pking is just as hunting, except you don't pk in a group but alone. Because it is so hard to chase a full rune armored opponent, you won't encounter much high lvl solo pkers. The most popular form of solo pking is rune miner pking. Because you'll beat a runeminer from here to tokio (because you can carry much more food), you won't be hit alot. This means kebabs are fine, as long as you eat when your hitpoints fall below your max HP - 30. Clan wars Clan wars are fights between often big clans, also in most clan fights, you are required to bring full rune along. You could be hit by much people at the same time, one bad kebab and you could be gone. Also when you are taking full rune, you shouldn't use kebabs at all, the costs of a load of lobsters is in no comparison to the costs of a suit of rune armor. Deathmatches Deathmatches are 1vs1 fights, running is often forbidden. Because only 1 person is hitting you, the lack of reliability form a kebab is not much of a factor. So if you fight unarmored deathmatches where you've got nothing to lose you might as well bring kebabs along (unless you want to win for your honor, in that case you should buy lobsters or maybe even swordfish) If you have got something to lose, for example rune armor, you should use at least lobsters Funning When you have nothing to lose anyway, or can't be killed but neither can you kill your opponent, you're just there for fun. Most people at the black knights castle are funning, if they are losing, they can teleport to safety anyway. If you're funning you should bring kebabs, you won't make kills/deaths anyway. If you are funning in rune armor, you shouldn't use kebabs when you're in multicombat areas, in single however, you're free to kebab. -You shouldn't use kebabs in wilderness if you're max hitpoints are lower then 85, because then the kebabs won't heal as much anymore, when below 85, you might as well use salmons for wilderness. -Also, when you are pking in full rune armor you should bring at least lobsters in most of the cases, because the cost of a full load of lobsters is a tiny fraction of the price of a rune armor suit. -When you are in multicombat areas you could be KO'ed, in most of the cases you should take lobsters. I hope this guide was of any use to you. :D :D Happy kebapping! -

One more defence lvl till lvl 120 combat!!!!!! \ \ \

31 :D

Yes I was thinking of training ranged the month after I get it, else the transition from afk to skilling would be to big. I wanted to train at the flesh crawlers, I only hit like 9 or 10 so their 25HP shouldnt be a problem. Because they hit so low I can take dragonhide + coif. I can do afk if I dont pick up and I will :D I wont get 99 ranged I think but Ill get somewhere in the 90s! And after that I go merchanting and high alching big time when I sell my half wine when prices peak. :P

It was actually already my goal from then. 99 strenght was not my complete goal.

He is 111 combat already!

92 defence achieved!! Halfway to my final 99 skill. That means Im 5/6 through my goal! Wish me luck. :D

Oh are skeletons higher hp then spiders? I guess their low defence and high HP lvls make them good targets then, but still, no auto-attack means youre not able to fight all the time, so youll end up with less xp...for way more trouble.

Yay just passed the 10.000 views! :D

Thanks :D And about the questions: Spiders are way better, they give much higher hourly xp. I train with strenght ammy, +4 strenght is way better then +6 attack in my opinion. I also use strenght potions, for only like 1k costs each hour in sips, the added hourly xp points (2k+) are definetily worth it. Where to run I have this picture to eleborate. You start coming in the room in corner 3, from there you walk in the middle of the room, as soon as they stop attacking (after 10 minutes) you have to run in corner 1 and back, theyll be aggresive again. When they stop, you have to run in corner 2, corner after that. And then you have to go in corner 1 again, etc... It must be in this order, else they'll stop. You have got a very small chance that walking into the corner doesnt work, then you have to run to the north through the doors all the way and back, then everything is good again. Spiders have got more hp then skeletons and because they auto-attack you'll fight all time. So the hourly xp is higher. But because skeletons hit so low, you'll have to spend less time resupplying. Still I recommed spiders, even if you dont afk.

Thanks :D Only need to get to 94 defence for 120 combat so I will become it pretty soon, I think 120 is a nice milestone! Oh and about the money question: In begin 2006 I mined 5M worth in rune ores, after that I merchanted 8M extra while combatting to 100, I had a steel business, I bought ores let them be smith and sold the bars. Then I bought a blue mask for 11M and quit. When I came back a few months ago, the mask raised to 25M, I sold it, and merchanted to what I have now (feather business), also while combatting. Well thats the story, enjoy! :mrgreen:

Yes thats right. And got 91 defence and 119 combat!

No comment.I think I owe you some maple bows anyway... Auch, I have also gotten my 99 strenght and recently 99 attack on accident, it is annoying. Good that you still give the party I gave it up. Gratz anyway for nice f2p lvls.