k, this is what i have so far, not too good, its my first one, and its also done on Microsoft Paint :x i wish i had a better program instead of doing all the shading pixel by pixel... edit: is there any site that hosts bmp images? when i save under jpeg it makes the sig's colours look bad. edit2: well this sucks, when i open the picture on paint again, it gets all weird and it doesnt look good so i'm not gonna restart everything heh.. well now i know. :wink: better luck for me next time.