thx :) and yes I think even at 99 smith ill sell most of the rune ore I mine, just cause soooo much easier and faster. I smelt about 1.1k gold ore per hour on neitiznot, depending on how many molly randoms i get sigh lol. So with family crest gaunts about 56 to 61k exp an hour. Basically steel is ok if u can sell the steel plates 1k each, saves you a lot of time not having to alchemy and make a bit more money. Personally, I don't make quite enough money per hour to afford being able to make steel plates lol, but gold ore is working fine for me :)