i prob spent as much time reading replies as i did the guide im 81 mining and 70 smithing and probably haven't mined in like a year :wall: dunno bout the whole gold thing but overall a great guide ... was worth the read ps:u made me log out enough im trying 2 get 5m 4 veracs..thank alot :evil: jjking ...currently at 1.5m+whip wish me luck :wink: