Expiredjelly

Even in P2p, mage is not good for pvp unless it is ancients (which even then doesnt quite compensate). I think all blasts and waves should be beefed up 3more max damage. Snare should definitely be f2p as well, this spell if made f2p will be the most influential spell. As for new armor, the robes shouldn't give more than +10 or 15 magic attack because mage defence on all armors are low to start with. The main reasons mages aren't too good is because maging is slow, and melee/range can hit for just as high at faster speeds on mages. It doesn't help that mages have low defence. If Jagex really wanted to make it equal they would make mages be able to hit a lot higher to compensate for the slow speed and low defence. I agree that magic on f2p needs to be better, but even in p2p it it horribly weak. It's like prayer, it helps but its not the main thing that kills.