Keiphus Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I don't see how entangles comment was that far from the truth.... You don't have to know how you did that to know that your composition leaves alot to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entangle Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 If you knew what you were talking about you might have sounded intelligent, since you don't, go back to making models. Damn, who knew there was so much contraversy on grunge style sigs That could have been true, but unfortunatly, I do know what I am talking about, and your sig is neither good, or grunge. Quit RS 2005 | RSN: JohnalderBack as of 5/7/2008!Dragon Drops: x1 Med, x5 Legs, x4 Skirts, x25 Boots, x1 Visage | x7 Abyssal Whips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Pretty damn horrid all round. Learn about placement, and composition. Don't just make some random burnt background and slap a dude in a hard light layer in there.If you knew what you were talking about you might have sounded intelligent, since you don't, go back to making models. Damn, who knew there was so much contraversy on grunge style sigs :| Something I'd like to see YOU try is modeling. :D That would be fun. Whats so great about it? :? The abstract background has little depth, and (like most grunges) seems flat and boring, and the clashing stock photo on top of it doesn't seem too appealing. The text isn't special either, fortunately you've made that pretty subtle on your current one. The one with the clip totally clashes, even more so than the stock. Sorry mate, but I've seen better from you. You've been spending too much time at the grunge-crazed site, few people there know anything when it comes to design. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoked Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Pretty damn horrid all round. Learn about placement, and composition. Don't just make some random burnt background and slap a dude in a hard light layer in there.If you knew what you were talking about you might have sounded intelligent, since you don't, go back to making models. Damn, who knew there was so much contraversy on grunge style sigs :| Something I'd like to see YOU try is modeling. :D That would be fun. Whats so great about it? :? The abstract background has little depth, and (like most grunges) seems flat and boring, and the clashing stock photo on top of it doesn't seem too appealing. The text isn't special either, fortunately you've made that pretty subtle on your current one. The one with the clip totally clashes, even more so than the stock. Sorry mate, but I've seen better from you. You've been spending too much time at the grunge-crazed site, few people there know anything when it comes to design. :lol:its not supposed to be great, its a grunge, most grunge aren't great unless you are at a graphic based site that knows, and appreciates the time it takes, and as for modeling, i could never to it :roll: . when i got this sig rated at a graphic site, got nothing but praise, but on these sites its all trend and this sig is not trend, it was just somthing i had to do because i had hardly spent any time on grunge sigs. I had always been flaming them untill i realized the talent it took, and when people say "you just DL some brushes and go crazy" i thought it was true untill i tried it, slap some brushes on a sig and you get crap. If you want a good sig, you need layer balance and effects, this sig has no bushing it is all 3dsm and filters. The stock pic does not clash IMO, it is a very nice contrast from the oranges and reds, however i know how much you disaprove of adding stocks to sigs, if you find the right one, it does turn out alright. Then there is ofcourse the text, yes venomai, evreyone knows you're all about "typography" but remember, this is grunge, it needs flat and distorted text, hence the font ChickenScratch. As for the clip, I had no intention of adding it untill i read that it took some time, so i had to try it ofcourse. But half of the reason it took so long is because it made my computer run horribly slow, 275 odd frames. Then i had to move it to the corner, and ofcourse it froze, 10 minutes later it desides to cooperate. The bracket around it is just to make the illusion of a TV screen or somthing. So there we have the making of this sig, contraversy over please? :roll: thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 i'm 100% agreeing With Ven here. Most grunges seem realy flat, its why i stick to photomanipuliation (like manipulating people) grunges, as i find it more fun and it can turn out much better :) Plus, maybe try making it look good without a stock picture? And anyways, contraversy is fun :shock: :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoked Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 read the whole post nad :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entangle Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 You went to communitys and all you got was praise? That's probably the first mistake you could make when taking off in design. You can't post your work expecting 100% praise, it doesnt work like that man. If the world ran on praise, then everyone would be skipping down the road humming. You seem to forget that this forum is a forum for game, not a design forum. 90% of the people who post on the media board are trying their hand at design and graphics, many are starting out and wont see the bad in a piece. This is because they don't know, but may learn to. You are right, people on this forum do copy each other, and closed trends on the forum do begin, but that's because those people havent been or seen other sites that have been doing the same art for decades. You also seem to think that this is everyones first forum. In some cases you are correct because they find tip.it through runescape help. They will stumble upon the media board, and think "hey, I can try that", and that's why you see some failed attempts here and there. Others havent though. I myself have only ever posted at design based boards, and believe me, I've been at allot of them, seen trends come and go, and seen people quit design because they expected praise every single time. It's not the way to go, and to get anywhere you are going to have to accept that fact that other peoples opinions count, even if you don't like them. And finally, stop thinking this is grunge. It is simply some jagged font on a badly composed, messy background. You seem to be misled by what grunge is, but not only you, a few others too *cough*. I really wish that sites like Enfest were still around, then you could see what grunge in design form was. Might give you an idea. http://www.dubtastic.com/ http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/ http://www.b-man.dk/gallery.asp http://www.damnengine.com http://www.damnengine.net/indexmain.html - proVIOLENCE's Maniplation and grunge cannot be matched. Quit RS 2005 | RSN: JohnalderBack as of 5/7/2008!Dragon Drops: x1 Med, x5 Legs, x4 Skirts, x25 Boots, x1 Visage | x7 Abyssal Whips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoked Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 i did not say i was looking for 100% praise as you so heavily put it, i simply said i went to a graphic site and asked them what they thought and it was all "great jobs" but this is not a graphic forum so i did not expect many to appreciate it i just wanted opinions and i got them, then you come tell me that its not grunge blah blah blah, there are many genres of grunge and this would fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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