I have been at Black Dragons for the last 3 days While on runescape, I have yet to obtain the Visage needed for the dragonfire shield. I know its a very Extremly rare drop and nobody can get accurate calculations on the drop rate but does anyone have a modern idea, and at this point if any of you have gotten a visage or a uncharged dragonfire shield and are willing to sell it...I might be Intersted in buying, Anyways give me any information you may know about the Visage, Because all i basically know is it's dropped by blacks and metals, and is an extremly rare drop last time I checked shield or visage was around 19m or something outrages like that.

At this time of post, it is 17-18m. Only black dragons, iron and steel metal dragons, skeletal wyvern, and KBD drop the dragonic visage. I personally have killed wyverns since the update and havn't gotten one. I believe the rate is 1/2000. #-o

hmmm yea, I'm Kind of waiting for the demand to die down that way I don't have to fight the crowd for each time a black Dragon or metal respawns because I am not in it to make a profit while there in demand. I want one for my own use.. I CAN'T IGNORE A CHARGED ONES STATS :D

Well... I know for a fact I've killed over 1k skeletal wyvern because I've gotten 350k exp from them and they only have 250 health I believe.

hmm...geez.. Too Bad you haven't optained one yet...I'm sure if you keep that Up you'll snag one fairly soon. If you do Happen to obtain one do you plan to sell or keep it as your own use?