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Not the end - The start of something new!


draco_draco

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Heya! As a few others, im a stubborn player which wont quit just because of a few changes. To be honest, my oppinion on people making riot's, theyre just pathetic. Want to get things solved? FAIR ENOUGH. Want to tell it to jagex? FAIR ENOUGH. Do you want to stop up, scream, make riots and believe that jagex will reset things and let gold farmers desert runescape FOR REAL? - if thats so, then GET real.

 

You play a game to enjoy it, have a fun time, be with friends and NOT to go to bed with a angry mind, using hours riotting over something which you can't change with it...

 

Now lets try and take a look at this update, the pros and cons:

 

 

 

Cons:

 

Playerkilling:

 

PvP Has changed dramatically, and will most likely never be the same with DM's and the so called "honor" which was already dieing. Instead, teams will prevail, like they have done for the past months - No real changes here as i can see it, AG and other big teams will still be suporior as they where before the update.. You can't run back and get untradeable items back? Oh, what a shame. Dont pk in it then! Seeing someone using torso and firecape at MB wasn't really a thrill, as with some energy pots and a quick tele to ardy, they could run back and loot it.. Big deal, you get more bonusses and dont loose anything.

 

Now, Jmods did tell clan leaders of big clans that this will get changed, so you will just have to wait and see - if you yell "RS IS DEAD@@@" the same day the update gets out, and dont even give it a chance... Youre stuck in the old days. Evolve. Get going, and try to USE the new options you get, THEN after you tried it out and jagex had a little time to fix flaws, you can yell "DEAD" if you want to.. But it wont help anything.

 

 

 

Clans are not dead either - They made it much better!

 

"PKRI's are dead"

 

"HOW?!? if you do a pkri in the high lv crater, you have a giant multi zone to fight in, and if you die you will end up just outside where there is a BANK so you can return again in 2 minutes because you can't enter the crater as you died. This didn't kill PKRI's, it made them easier to return to and possible better".

 

"Clan pk'ing is dead".

 

"How so? Now that you have a giant multi zone to pk in, clans and big teams will RULE. This also gave new life to clans".

 

"Solo pk'ing is dead".

 

"I tend to agree with that, then again not.. Jagex said this was a start up, they most likely WILL make some non-multi zones in there".

 

"War's can't be made anymore".

 

"Lol? Of course they can! We got clan wars arena now, where upto 100 peoples can be in at once. 100 Isn't alot to some clans though, but my friend already mentioned that and im sure jagex are working on it!".

 

 

 

 

 

Wilderness:

 

The wilderness have been made smaller, and "less" dangerous - Now that there is no pkers, you can easily take 20M gear out there, as with that kind of gear the new spirits wont be a threat to you really. I tested out the spirits myself, and i found a lv 126 knight - 8 sharks and 30 rune arrows later, it was dead, by praying magic and just chopping away. Gear was black dhide, archer helm and ranged potted - 99 ranged. Now, if you can take godswords, whips and barrows armor out in the wilderness without risking to loose it because of pkers, you can easily take on a spirit or two, which means wilderness is no real threat anymore. It might be to the lower levels as they will have a hard time fighting the lv 126's i guess.

 

 

 

Trading:

 

Hm. I have a bit of thoughts about this..

 

You can't let your friends borrow your items anymore, this means that you can't give gifts to them, or share materials, or for that sake let them make items for you while you go do something else - if you just need a quick item made, like a fury, then you can just borrow their crafting level. If instead you want to give them 5k yew longs to make, they MUST have money to give you - and after they make the longs for you, you will have to pay them even MORE money to get them back, yeilding no gain OR a loss for you where you just wanted to get a little help from kind hearted friends..

 

 

 

You can't monsterhunt properly either - Go to armadyl, get a hilt drop with 3 friends, and they will have zilch and you have a 150M cash pile sitting in your bank. Sure, it will feel good to get a so big boost of money, but then again - your three friends got nothing, so can you properly enjoy it without thinking of them?.

 

 

 

Then again, we don't know how this will turn out - the update has not yet been introduced to runescape. Jagex might make tweaks at it, and i can't see how they can still have the 5% on/off on the normal price in GE if you cant use that in trades too - In theory, you could go out, buy 1K d bones for min price on G E, then go out to a live player, and sell to him for normal price to earn yourself 100K. If anything, this update will give merchanting a new chance to live because of the GE, if this is the matter.

 

 

 

Looting:

 

Oh yeah, who haven't wanted to see the lootpile with guthans spear and helm from some unlucky person taking on a monster just a bit too strong for his level? I did until i died at metal dragons and lost 3.5K slayer darts and ahrims myself. I attacked a steel dragon, tried to drink a dose of anti fire pot, and then i whitescreened for 2 minutes. I had the name of a person down there, but when i pm'd him/her, (s)he said that all (s)he got was the rune axe that i used to get down there... It was all (s)he saw. Now, the wrath i felt because (s)he surely had got something but just wouldn't give it back made me realise that anyone else which died would feel the same way.. Therefore, when a lv 95 in barrows died at dharok because his first barrow trip went wrong (he thought he could melee dharok with his own dharok set) and i looted his whip, fury, and dh helm, i ended up giving it all back. It was all he had, and i know how i would feel if i instantly lost 90% of my wealth.

 

The gravestones seems like a great idea to me, and whenever i see one, i'll be sure to bless it if i got prayer, so that one sad player can get back and get his items back if possible. With the 1 hour it will be there you can even get 40 KC for a godwar boss (not so sure about armadyl, but pretty sure about saradomin), so you can get it back almost EVERYWHERE.

 

 

 

Now, i don't really see anymore cons with this, duel arena and extra f2p bank space already have been explained really.. Nothing to rant about.

 

Now, the pros of this - i'll list em here..

 

 

 

Pros:

 

Playerkilling:

 

Most have already been explained in my own small "arguments" up there, so dont see other things i can write.

 

 

 

 

 

Trading:

 

You cannot be scammed/scam anymore - Big +.

 

You cannot ruin a friendship over items anymore - if a friend where to steal a santahat of yours you would most likely cut any bond with him, right?. Well, now you don't even have to think about it, as it CANNOT HAPPEN! No more "false" friends which take you for the money's sake (yes, there are some out there which do that. I even did it in my "noob" days).

 

It will be easier to find teams to go monster hunting with - Armadyl, saradomin, etc. Because you don't have to share the loot. You don't have to go with very trusted friends as they can't scam you, you can't get anything from their drops in the FIRST place.

 

No beggers. Want me to say it again? NO FREAKING BEGGERS!! We will finally get rid of them, unless they want to buy a law rune or something!!.

 

 

 

Looting:

 

You can now get your item's back if your friend blesses your gravestone for you - This is great, no more dieing and loosing expensive stuff to gargoyles because of connection lost!. More items WILL dissappear because of this though, Because if someone dies with a blue phat to a evil chicken and the person dont get back in time.. Well, thats a blue phat lost.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, i have a bit more to say, about the new times..

 

 

 

We all know that summoning is coming out in january, but jagex have let hints out that next to noone have seen, because they have been busy riotting. Let me point out what i mean..

 

 

 

concept2008.gif

 

 

 

And the text below the picture:

 

Some character concept art for a piece of content we're aiming to release in 2008.

 

 

 

Tell me, what does this look like? A walking skeleton mage?... A dead mage.. Necromancy!? Yes, thats right, this seems like enough proof to me that jagex will release another skill (or add on) in 2008, NECROMANCY.

 

 

 

Well, hope you enjoyed reading this, AND PLEASE - No flaming, and keep everything clean. Constructive critism is allowed, i guess.

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Well, this is basically your opinions and thoughts about the updates. Not much to discuss here. This should go on the 10 december 2007 - ALL updates! thread along with the other opinions and thoughts.

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