Autominers!!!!!!!

[TheWereWolf]

easy enough to write and encode a tracking system, into the game.

 

 

 

This could also help with the trade scamming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes actually a bit of work for jagex but in the long run would help improve that quality of the game.

[Bubsa]

Please tell me how easy it could be.

[cubegenius]

hmmm how to cheap and auto on runescape in one word=[Caution: JagexRuleViolation](make ur own scripts)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

learn how to cheat then learn how to report u friggin noob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow lots of people with mith picks lets report

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

go die

[thecreature]

To be honest, all those people who doubt that cheating is possible in rs2, it is, And second, to those who doubt that avoiding randoms is possible, it is. Cheating in runescape i fear is far more complex that simple auto clickers which you all assume they are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ill give you the run down on a program. Scar works by clicking on certain colours, in a certain order. A simple example would be to find the colour of an iron rock and record it. The mouse then clicks on the rock in game, the script then tells it to stop for 5 secs or something like that nd then search for the colour again. I presue that the reason the people wak off away from the rock is that the script is making sure that it drops the ores away from the rock, because if the the program sees the ore on the floor, it will mistake it for a rock and try to mine it. Thats my best bet, but maybe im wrong, maybe the script just gets confused. Now, the scripts do not only recognise colours, but also pctures, pictures of text. so lets say that a random comes along and says something, the script will recognise the text as a picture and will now move the mouse to click on the random. the process is should imagine is then simple, clicking continue for most randoms is suffiecient, for example, all you need to do to get rid of a dwarf is click on the dwarf then click ok in the text box. All dwarfs are the same, the continue is always in the sasme place. What about boxes i hear you say. Well these were famously cracked with days of being released However boxes show evidence that jagex knows about SCAR. Since they rotate around, it is difficult for the script to recognise a picture and its colur. Difficult but not impossible. There are certain scripts that when added to other scripts enable them to do other things, i think they are called includes, but my memory forgets. These includes are basically little sub programs so that the writer doesnt have to write out the code all over again..., like a certain procedure, the script just recalls it from the include. As far as i know, all anti randoms have includes to stop them, or rather deal with them. The one for the box is known as box breaker, as it effectively breaks the box.

 

 

 

Due to this there is very little a script in SCAR cant do. it can folour colurs of things in the mini map to make it walk back to the bank, use one colur with another... everything i gues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason i know all this is becausee i am intersted in coding, i find the way in SCAR works very interesting as the language is very simple. Intrestingly enough i found out about SCAR whilst searching for coding on recorded mouse clickings, as i was tring to do a presentation at my school and didnt want to have to move the mouse myself. After about 30 mins of reading i have learned this much info, though i doubt ill ever use it. I dont belive in cheating, its pointless and ruins the game for eveything, and i am writing this here to help jagex sort out this problem. i personally am trying to raise all my levels maually, fishing and cooking and then combat, and i get more satisfaction from getting the levels, than actually having the levels per ce.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The SCAR could be caught out very easily, for example, chagning the colur of screens everytime someone logs in, difficult as it may seem i coubt this would require much effort. and a new random event would be good, i think the mazes and mimes were a great idea, but im afriad the script would just log out. i am currently thinking along the lines of recording the exp people get. i think that all new members should have teir own files, and that if the number of xp gained goes over a certain amount it should trigger an alram, which would alert jagex to find out if the person is cheating. The scripts oviously can be caught out, but through no fault of their own, only by people staying on rs longer than is humanly possible, people juat cant stay logged ono rs for more than 24 hours, they need the toilet etc...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However unforutantely i think tht cheating will always be here, just as internet terrorism is, people see jagex as a company that has done them wrong some how, or just a challenge. Most of the people who hack of write viruses (and i know people that do) dont do it to damage anyones pc, but just because they can, or they want to see if they can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefuly after receiving news about SCAr, though im sure they know about it already, Jagex will be able to introduce new pricedures to prevent its use...

[TheWereWolf]

It's something that is already being done in, some of the other online games.

 

 

 

As far as in game trade tracking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All of a chars information is backed up daily.

 

 

 

with such chars as being talked about, there only trading with a limited number of chars. In most cases being one or 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when a char is banned simply have it list chars traded with in last week or 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then they can check this char most likely whatever ore or logs being sold and cash being transfer to a main.

[Bubsa]

Possibly the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard. They could be trading to anyone. A lot of people would get extremely annoyed.

[battletrax]

I'll be very frank...The only way that I see it to be plausible to actually create a bot/auto script for RS is to basically record your moust clicks and then send them to the appropriate window. This can rather easily be done with Visual Basic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This type of a script is rather unreliable and does NOT protect you from random events. Random events are just that...random. I am rather certain that they are generated through something like, Math.random(); function generated by a server and interpreted by the client There is very little possibility of detecting them. That's just the problem with RS2. Almost everything is done through the server. There are definitely a load of code that gets uploaded and loaded from the user's computer (check your Java cache and open all the .gtz (I believe) files you find with WinRAR). Most of these things simply include the large majority of the login script and some random things such as the timeout script (which I believe still gets checked by the server) and all sounds files.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only plausible method seems to be to actually get the file containing the information you wish to audit, audit it on your home computer, run it from your home computer, and run something like Proxomitron to filter/edit all the headers from packets that specify your REMOTE_ADDR and change it to that of the given server. This might trick the login server into believing that the file is really residing on it, and not on your home computer... Alternatively, one can try to actually filter the packets (doubt its possibility, since RS uses TCP and not UDP, meaning more authentication gets done) with some other utilities (which I won't name for obvious reasons), but I doubt that this would work, although theoretically it should allow you to do some thing like change the amount of money at the trade screen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, to implement something of the above nature into making an auto-miner script is rather improbable, imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea... They did that years ago in stronger languages than VB...

[somefruity]

Well...you could do it with pretty much any language, but I am quite sure that you yourself see that it would be much easier to do it in VB. You could do it in Perl, C, C++...hell, even Java itself. However, to do it in any of these languages one would actually have to code an API that would integrate with the JVM client. That means that Perl is automatically disqualified (eh...who the writes APIs in Perl?). It would be much easier to do it in C, but even easier to do it in VB, since there are already a load of hooks available for MS JVM client.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thecreature, quite frankly, I think that you don't know what you are talking about. I mean, wtf? Recognizing colors? Do you realize that it would be very inprobable to implement? What if, for example, a guy walks in with colors matching those of the rock or if somebody drops an ore that matches the color of the rock. Seriously, there is far too many things that don't make sense here. Or what if the rock starts steaming? How the hell do you expect the script to recognize colors of the "steam?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And "includes" is nothing that you have described it to be. It is not little "sub-programs" at all. It is used to pull in declarations from an external file. It is called, "a preprocessor." For example, here is a default #include line from C,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#include  

 

 

 

This allows you to use the default (like the printf predefined function) declarations in your source code.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After about 30 mins of reading i have learned this much info, though i doubt ill ever use it.

 

 

 

After about 5 years of schooling, I have learned this much info. I've used it in the past to make money. I also have a CCNA, Network+, and MCSE certs right now. Currently I am working for a Security+ cert. I can provide you with a scanned copy if you request nicely and I have the time. I am not just shooting my mouth off.

[TheWereWolf]

Bubsa,

 

 

 

Possibly the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard. They could be trading to anyone. A lot of people would get extremely annoyed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I take it you either dont know, what going on in rs or pick to ignore it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most do as i said and no, they don't trade with everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think somefruity, would most likely agree that a system to track auto'ers trades could be but into the system quite easyly.

 

 

 

Yes this would take a bit of doing on the part of jagex.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And dont u think, auto'ers extremely annoy alot of people?

[battletrax]

Well...you could do it with pretty much any language, but I am quite sure that you yourself see that it would be much easier to do it in VB. You could do it in Perl, C, C++...hell, even Java itself. However, to do it in any of these languages one would actually have to code an API that would integrate with the JVM client. That means that Perl is automatically disqualified (eh...who the writes APIs in Perl?). It would be much easier to do it in C, but even easier to do it in VB, since there are already a load of hooks available for MS JVM client.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thecreature, quite frankly, I think that you don't know what you are talking about. I mean, *? Recognizing colors? Do you realize that it would be very inprobable to implement?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea. Vb would be much easier, but efficiency>ease of coding lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you keep saying how improbable this is, but it's all been done long ago. Old-school autominers to work by recognizing colors. It's a java game, the colors are all fairly basic and easy to detect.

 

 

 

Again, this stuff is old news...

[thecreature]

[quote name="somefruity"}

 

 

 

Thecreature' date=' quite frankly, I think that you don't know what you are talking about. I mean, *? Recognizing colors? Do you realize that it would be very inprobable to implement? What if, for example, a guy walks in with colors matching those of the rock or if somebody drops an ore that matches the color of the rock. Seriously, there is far too many things that don't make sense here. Or what if the rock starts steaming? How the hell do you expect the script to recognize colors of the "steam?"

 

 

 

[/quote]

 

 

 

Well then mr big shot computer guy, i pressume you know a website called google, use up some of your time, and do a search for "SCAR".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After i did so, i found the following, just to help you understand that I am right, and you are wrong...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is scar? What can it do?

 

 

 

SCAR ([cabbage] Compared To [ForbiddenSite]) is a cheating program made by kaitnieks. You probably won't want to know the ins and outs of it, so just think of it as a colour clicker. You use the program to write scripts in, and or run scripts. These scripts can look around the screen for text, colours, move your mouse, click your mouse etc.. Using a combination of these features, scripts can be written to automatically play runescape for you. For example, you might be able to find a script that can mine coal in the mining guild, bank the coal when you're bag is full, and then go back to mining. SCAR can be used to cheat in most online browser games, and some non browser games. However on these forums, SCAR is used to cheat in runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes there are problems is someone walks in front of you and drops their ore, but, wait, if you readd my post....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I presue that the reason the people wak off away from the rock is that the script is making sure that it drops the ores away from the rock, because if the the program sees the ore on the floor, it will mistake it for a rock and try to mine it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And second, the program will try nd match it EXACTLY, not just red to red, down to the exact colour, with a tolerance of maybe ten. Iron is brown, people wear brown shoes but im sure even you can tell that the colour brown is not exactly the same. DUH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With your five years of education in this field i would expect you to know more than me in 30 minutes, but obviously not, try actually researching something before you try and say its impossible, it IS possible, i have seen it work on my friends pc, You are WRONG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

begin

 

 

 

click(here)

 

 

 

wait(110)

 

 

 

click(there)

 

 

 

wait(150)

 

 

 

repeat

 

 

 

wait(1000)

 

 

 

until(getcolor(123,423)=234194) // get color number 234194 at coordinates 123(x) and 423(y)

 

 

 

end;

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is not actual code just an example. After the Login; procedure has been completed it goes on to the next procedure on the list which is Talk; , Talk; would look something like this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, i found this after 5 minutes of looking around, obviously i wont show you where as this is encouraging cheating... but seriously man, i think after your FIVE years of learning about this sort of thing you should ask for you money back, lmao

[Zargo_VI]

Sorry, but I'm going to lock this since we don't allow discussions about illegal programs. :|